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Author: elise
Date: 2002-01-12 20:58
Simply put, I'll need to flutter a high Ab in an arrangement of Bernstein's Slava! for a band festival.
How do I do this correctly and effectively?
elise
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Author: sarah
Date: 2002-01-12 22:09
Although I can't do either, I don know that growling and flutter tonguing are different. I think, flutter tonguing is like what you do for a drum roll (with your tongue).
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Author: Lynn
Date: 2002-01-12 22:11
It's like rolling your Rs instead of tonguing - if you have to do this on a high Ab, make sure you don't pinch or bite - the looser the embouchure, the more luck you will have getting the high note to come out! 
Good luck -
Lynn
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Author: William
Date: 2002-01-12 23:55
Do it like you would gargle Listerein, or some such liquid. Steady breath support is needed. Good luck. (think "nasty")
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Author: Earl Thomas
Date: 2002-01-13 01:57
You might have success by starting the note with the breath, not by releasing the tongue-tip from the reed-tip. The ability to role one's "r"s varies from person to person, but, with perserverance, one can develop a passable flutter tongue technique. On my Buffet, the High A-flat fingering works best by using the right or left-hand "C/F" key as the "harmonic" or "speaker" key, in combination with fingers 2,3 in the left hand and 2 in the right. Have you ever seen the Berg Opus 5? Flutter tonguing is required in some bars of those four very interesting pieces.
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Author: Kim L.
Date: 2002-01-13 02:40
When I had to do this on Blue Shades, I just shook my tongue back and forth. I think all the clarinets "winged" it. :0)
Good luck,
Kim L.
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Author: Ashley
Date: 2002-01-13 17:07
Flutter tounging is not hard at all. Simply roll your tounge as you would when rolling an "R" in speech. Pull the mouthpiece slightly out of your mouth so that your tounge doesn't actually hit the reed or the mouthpiece. Flutter tounging is easiest in the chalumeau register, but requires a stronger stream of air for the clarion and altissimo registers.
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Author: Katie
Date: 2002-01-13 20:07
In response to Ashley's comment that flutter tonguing is not hard at all, I disagree wholeheartedly. To YOU it may not be hard at all, but I find that this is the case with most people who can flutter tongue--you can do it easily or you cannot do it at all. I know of one extremely successful professional in particular who has never been able to flutter tongue. I think growling (the "gargling" thing), on the other hand, is something that can be learned with practice.
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Author: Nate L.
Date: 2002-01-14 00:42
I cand flutter though i envy the ability of many flute players who seem to be able to pull this wonderfull feat of gymnastics off as easy as playing normaly. I growl when the score calls for flutter...umm technicaly there is a difference, but if you growl the end result is more or less the same. Just be carefull that you dont let the note go flat. To Kim... isnt Blue Shades kinda fun?
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Author: Kim L.
Date: 2002-01-14 04:01
Blue Shades was one of my favorite pieces that I've ever played in my four years of college!
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Author: Gretchen
Date: 2002-01-14 12:40
Funny, I also had to flutter tongue a high G# (4 lines above staff) in a performance at camp of another Bernstein piece, West Side Story. I growled my throat, and after a week I could do it. When I got home I went out and bought a recording of the Symphonic Dances with Ozawa conducting the San Francisco Symphony on Deutsche Gramophone and was dismayed to hear the first chair of Frisco turning that into a G# to A trill! Moral of the story - not everyone can flutter tongue, so if you can't get it, maybe you should turn it into a trill. Flutter tonguing is easy on low notes, but can be quite painful as you get above the staff. Good luck!
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Author: Lynn
Date: 2002-01-14 13:32
BTW it's easier to flutter tongue when you play double lip. That raises your soft palate. If you have a chance to put your top lip over your teeth a few measures before or after the cursed note, try it out!
Lynn
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