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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2002-01-12 15:10
It looks to me to be the {French-American, not German] usual, 17 keys/ 6 rings model Boehm-system , by Buffet/Crampon even tho owned in Southern Germany! Luck, Don
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2002-01-12 16:18
It is probably a professional Buffet made in 1929. However, because the picture doesn't have enough resolution to show a label, it could also be an Evette "Sponsored by Buffet" student model of roughly the same age. My college German is rusty and was never very idiomatic so I'm not sure if the crack is in the bell or the barrel (is it the barrel?), though either way it would have about the same effect on market value (some deduction) or playability (probably little, if any, effect). Also, does "teilwise mit Spielbar" (which translates literally as "partially with play") mean that the keys are partially loose or (less serious) partially tarnished.
The bid stands at €150 (about $US 135) so, if it is an Evette, it has probably reached its U.S. Ebay value (and, IMO, surpassed it). If, as I suspect, it is a professional Buffet, it would probably sell in a US auction for $300 -- $400. I would e-mail the seller and ask for a description of the logo. If it is an Evette, I would not bid. If, as I suspect, it is a professional instrument, then I still probably wouldn't bother with it (but I'm not looking for such an instrument). Whether you should bid depends on what you are looking for. Because of its age, it is not a "modern" (i.e., Caree polycylindrical bore) R13 so, if you are a high-level player looking for a front line instrument, you probably should give this one a pass. If you are looking for an inexpensive backup or you are an amateur looking for a decent instrument, it might be worth buying at €250 to €280. (You could probably recover at least that amount in an international auction.) Considering its age, however, despite the owner's claims of its playablility, it will almost certainly need new pads and probably new corks so, unless you do that sort of thing yourself, add that cost to what you will ultimately have to pay for the clarinet.
I hope this opinion/evaluation is helpful.
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: ron b
Date: 2002-01-12 17:36
How can one figure out something by long distance? It's a so-so pic, a short description and you don't know this seller from the hundreds of others offering stuff on eBay. The only facts you have to go on are:
Buffet Crampon Clarinet
Item # ------
Older Bb, serial # ------, Boehm [system]. Repaired crack at the barrel, shows some key wear [pads?] from playing. Otherwise, in good condition and a good player. Vandoren B45 mouthpiece.
We don't know from the typically brief description whether this seller, Leomann, is knowledgeable about clarinets or not. I would, as usual, assume not. If you need to ask questions there are twenty hours left. One bidder so far @150 Euros. Doesn't say anything about shipping, you'd need to clarify that before bidding. Feedback shows no negatives/neutrals and Leo has one other clarinet listed, a Noblet.
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Author: Kim L.
Date: 2002-01-12 18:01
I own a Buffet from 1930 which is extremely sharp. Whether it is a characteristic of that clarinet or not, I don't know. However, if I had a choice between a clarinet from 1930 and a new clarinet, I'd go with a new clarinet.
Kim L.
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Author: werner
Date: 2002-01-12 20:17
A brandnew B12 with guarantee, case, the possibility to play it
before goes for around 500 - 600 €.
I don't know anything about Boehm clarinets. But the German
systems are in general much to expensive on ebay.de.
good luck
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Author: Rene
Date: 2002-01-13 07:47
OK. Thanks to all responders. I also guessed it might be a professional instrument from the 20th. There is no other label (the seller would have mentioned that). I also wondered about intonation, which cannot be checked by mail. In short, this is not something I want to deal with.
Thanks again.
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