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Author: Lindsey Ondrey 
Date:   2001-12-03 06:04

Does anyone know of a really good music theory website? I'm feeling a little lazy right now and not really wanting to walk across the room to get my text book to look up my chord progression charts for class, (though I will have to I'm sure because I doubt anyone will reply in a minute or less). I was just curious if anyone knows of a good site for future times when I don't have my text book close at hand or have additional questions. :) I'm currently in Theory I and we're up to cadences and such on the piano. preferably a site that is pretty much along the lines of what a text book would have.

Thanks!

~*~*~Linz~*~*~

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 RE: Music Theory
Author: Wyatt 
Date:   2001-12-03 15:18

You might try http://www.musictheory.halifax.ns.ca

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 RE: Music Theory
Author: Lindsey Ondrey 
Date:   2001-12-03 16:10

While that sounds rather interesting, I was looking more for a WEBSITE rather than someone trying to sell me a CD-rom. :-/ I'm a poor college student. I can't afford a CD-rom. I was hoping that someone could give me something that I can click on when I don't necessarily have my book, etc., because I'm somewhere else and trying to figure something out for an assignment. Ya know?

Thanks! :)

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 RE: Music Theory
Author: chuck 
Date:   2001-12-03 19:49

Too lazy to walk across the room to your book? If you are already up to cadences in Theory 1, it could be to your advantage to get the book and start studying what you should have been studying the past couple of months. Chuck

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 RE: Music Theory
Author: GBK 
Date:   2001-12-03 20:04

How sad...Sounds like another example of "Generation X"

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 RE: Music Theory
Author: Lindsey Ondrey 
Date:   2001-12-03 21:34

Hey hey hey. I was just joking about being too lazy to get the book. What I meant most by it was looking for a site that expanded on what I am learning in class and something that I can use for reference when I don't have access to my book.

I *have* been studying for the past few months, thank you. I was sick a week or so ago and missed two classes which put me behind. My book doesn't go into a whole lot of depth on cadences to help me understand them very well and I have a final project which involves harmonizing a hymn using all sorts of different rules with requirements regarding certain cadences, etc.

I'm so glad you were on top of things to jump on my case and criticize me.

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 RE: Music Theory
Author: GBK 
Date:   2001-12-03 21:51

Lindsey...As I've stated many times on this bulletin board before, be wary of web sites for information on rudiments of music, music theory, music history (especially), etc...As you know, just about anyone can put up a web page and be an "internet scholar". Many sites are incomplete, misleading or outright incorrect.

Always use PRIMARY SOURCES as the basis for your information, and the web as a supplement only. If you want, I can recommend some additional music theory texts to own, which might actually be a good thing to have in your library if you are planning a career in music.

I'm curious to know what theory text you now use. Let me know if I can help you further...GBK (a baby boomer generation high school teacher)

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 RE: Music Theory
Author: Lindsey Ondrey 
Date:   2001-12-03 23:04

We use "Tonal Harmony" (With an Introduction to Twentieth-Century Music) and its workbook in my class. (McGraw Hill College; Kostka & Payne-4th Ed.). It's really not that bad of a book but when you miss class and the examples in there to understand what exactly is going on and what the sparse examples in the book actually mean, it gets frustrating trying to catch up.

I know to not use the internet as the primary source, however as I stated before I was looking for something to supplement what Im learning with my book and class and to have as a reference when i don't have my book (i.e. at a friends house and forgot my book). I did find one site... www.musictheory.net which seems pretty helpful.

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 RE: Music Theory
Author: GBK 
Date:   2001-12-04 01:29

Some other major theory textbooks to consider owning:

1. Harmony - Walter Piston (Norton)
2. Elementary Harmony - Robert Ottman (Prentice Hall)
3. Materials and Structure of Music - Christ/DeLone/Kliewer/Rowell (Prentice Hall)
4. Music in Theory and Practice (text and workbook) - Bruce Benward/Gary White
(William Brown publishers)

There are many others of course. But, it is a good idea to have at least one good text in your own personal music library - an invaluable tool for any music major...GBK

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 RE: Music Theory
Author: Lindsey Ondrey 
Date:   2001-12-04 02:44

Thanks for the info. Do you know the best way to get ahold of these books? I don't have a credit card so I'm not able to order things online. Any certain supplier or should I just look around basically and see what I can come up with when I go to Illinois' Music Educator's conference in Jan.?

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 RE: Music Theory
Author: GBK 
Date:   2001-12-04 02:58

Lindsey...If ordering on line is not a possibility, try contacting Gary Van Cott. He is one of the sponsors of this site. On the home page click on the sponsor link to find "Clarinet Books and More" (the ad is about halfway down the page on the left side), he should be able to help you.

A second alternative is any used book shop, or library discards (free), as you never know what turns up there.

A third alternative is inquire at any college music library to see who their book supplier is. Perhaps you can order it by phone from them...Good Luck...GBK

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 RE: Music Theory
Author: willie 
Date:   2001-12-04 04:09

The ol' used book store had lots of those books at my college and I found some really good stuff in the Library too! I then zipped up the road to the U of H area and there were several used book stores up there with even more good stuff. There were books that weren't being used by that school anymore and therefore no bug demand for them, but they were current. I got these very cheap! Some publications cover some parts better than other and this is what helped me greatest. If I didn't understand what one author was trying to convey, I grabbed another book on the same subject until I got what I needed.

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 RE: Music Theory
Author: sarah 
Date:   2001-12-04 04:28

I use the same book in my theory I class and we are in the came place. It can be a little *funny* at times.

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 RE: Music Theory
Author: Hiroshi 
Date:   2001-12-04 05:04

This magazine has a Concise Grove dictionary.
http://www.andante.com/

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 RE: Music Theory
Author: Lindsey Ondrey 
Date:   2001-12-04 16:35

Where do you go to school, Sarah?

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 RE: Music Theory
Author: JMcAulay 
Date:   2001-12-04 18:22

I will echo GBK's praise of Piston's *Harmony* (first on the list, I see). I have had great success in finding very inexpensive textbooks at nearby commercial college/university bookstores (not necessarily the ones on campus). When a text for a course is changed, the store usually has some supply of the old ones, which have then become of very little value to the store. With such things as music theory, there is no compelling need for a text du jour, and the older ones (unless the newer editions are produced to rectify a great number of errors) are still usable.

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 RE: Music Theory
Author: GBK 
Date:   2001-12-04 19:10

If the above book recommendations do not work out, here is another well respected text to check:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0793598818/qid=1007496155/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_15_1/102-9383598-6945749

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 RE: Music Theory
Author: Bob 
Date:   2001-12-05 21:37

Come on Lindsey...you college students are burning cds every day.

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 RE: Music Theory
Author: Lindsey Ondrey 
Date:   2001-12-05 21:44

What do you mean by that? Yes, I burn CDs of music.... how does that compare to my music theory question? Are you referring to me not being able to afford a CD-rom? The CD-Rom on that site is over $20. At the moment I have $2 and some change in my checking account and dont' have a credit card to order online anyway. :-/

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