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 Transposing HELP!!
Author: Joe 
Date:   2001-12-03 15:39

I want to transpose some music written for piano to a key compatible with Bb clarinet. However, ......... the piece I'm interested in is written in the key of A Major, (3 sharps). Applying the old transposing rule "up one note and add 2 sharps" changes this to B Major with FIVE sharps. Not too much fun to play!! What are my alternatives? What other key can I transpose to and still be able to play the piece along with the piano?

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 RE: Transposing HELP!!
Author: sarah 
Date:   2001-12-03 15:58

You could play it on an A clarinet. it would be in the key of C then.

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 RE: Transposing HELP!!
Author: Joe 
Date:   2001-12-03 18:09

Great idea, Sarah .......... one small problem: no A clarinet!

ALL suggestions appreciated!

Joe.

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 RE: Transposing HELP!!
Author: Dee 
Date:   2001-12-03 18:09

You might transpose the piano part instead. The piano would be in the key of G while you are in the written key of A.

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 RE: Transposing HELP!!
Author: Dee 
Date:   2001-12-03 18:13

If the piece isn't fast, now is the time to dig in and learn to play somewhat comfortably in 5 sharps. Get comfortable with playing the midline B with the little finger of the right hand and the midstaff C# with the little finger of the left hand. The enharmonic key results in seven flats for the clarinet, which is just as bad or worse.

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 RE: Transposing HELP!!
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2001-12-03 22:30

Well done, Dee, just what I was going to suggest, unless a C clarinet is available!

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 RE: Transposing HELP!!
Author: bob gardner 
Date:   2001-12-04 00:50

If you go into the piece you may find out there arn't that many #'s. Just because a the piece is written in the key of B there may or may not be a lot of the # you don't know. As Dee say's bite the bullet and go for it.

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 RE: Transposing HELP!!
Author: Pam 
Date:   2001-12-04 02:17

I agree with Dee and Bob. Five sharps is something that you can get used to if you play it regularly. Use the fingering tip that Dee mentioned - right hand B natural, left C sharp and that will make the fingerings easier for you.

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 RE: Transposing HELP!!
Author: Jim E. 
Date:   2001-12-04 04:54

If a digital piano with a transposing function is available, your problem is solved.

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 RE: Transposing HELP!!
Author: Hiroshi 
Date:   2001-12-04 06:03

I found out one queer idea. Maybe usless. Use two not #ed notes E and B(after transposed) with accidental flats.

Transpose only C and G up 2, i.e. to E and B. Write a flat for each of E and B as an accidental. Others are up 1. You can have a transposed 'look-alike(fake) A major' and some accidental flats. Actually,this is the same thing with B major.

If you still does not like 3 #. Transpose C,G,and F up 2, i.e. E,B, A and write a flat for each. You can have save another #. But many accidentals....

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 RE: Transposing HELP!!
Author: Hiroshi 
Date:   2001-12-04 06:21

Or rather, remove the erase two #s of 5 #s, i.e. #D and #A and write them as accidentals. Same thing. This may be easier.

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 RE: Transposing HELP!!
Author: Mark Pinner 
Date:   2001-12-04 12:09

Just learn to play in B major. Us Oehler system players dont find it that hard. We may have trouble reading in Cb however.

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 RE: Transposing HELP!!
Author: Joe 
Date:   2001-12-04 21:44

OK, guys and gals ........ sincere thanks for the variety of suggestions. I'll explore all the alternatives then go for it. This idea of a straightforward approach "play it like its written" may be the way to go.

Again, thanks for the suggestions ......... appreciate all of them.

Joe

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 RE: Transposing HELP!!
Author: Hiroshi 
Date:   2001-12-05 06:43

FYI. Classic people learn each scale separately as if the base tone is fixed. However, Jazz people just considers the base tone(C) is removing. For example, they consider the base tone D of D major as if it is C removed. (This is difficult to explain.) This makes learning scales much easier.

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