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Author: Laura
Date: 2001-11-10 19:07
I can't find a good fingering for the octave above high C#--the second C# above the staff. Can someone please help me out?
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Author: Filipe T.
Date: 2001-11-10 19:58
I'm guessing that you're talking about your C# from the alissimo rgister. It's simple: Put your left hand middle finger and ring downand your right hand index and middle finger.
Hope it helps
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Author: Alphie
Date: 2001-11-10 20:43
I'm sure you mean the 2nd c# above the staff. Try 1st c# above the staff, add ring and eb-key and a hard reed. It works for me. For super D: Finger first c# above the staff, add long b-key. I've used them tonight in a concert.
Alphie
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Author: GBK
Date: 2001-11-10 23:06
The easiest fingering and most resonant high C# is:
TR + A key xoo / ooo Eb(r pinky)
Eb (rh)
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Author: Suzanne
Date: 2001-11-11 00:51
C#:
I use thumb/register plus middle and ring fingers of both L and R hands (no RH pinky)
D:
I use overblown E (next partial above high A) (Don't pinch it!)
Take more mouthpiece for these notes.
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Author: -
Date: 2001-11-11 03:43
something like this often works:
X
O
X
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X
O
X
(With the register key
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Author: Suzanne
Date: 2001-11-11 03:56
OOOPS!!
Of course I have my right pinky on the Eb key... I was out to lunch there. sorry
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Author: GBK
Date: 2001-11-11 04:09
To author = .... sorry, that suggested fingering is too flat to use.
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Author: Wes
Date: 2001-11-11 07:20
Try this for C#:
T O X X O O X
Try this for D:
T O X X C#/G# O O O G#/D#
Good Luck!!
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Author: GBK
Date: 2001-11-11 08:15
Wes...Your suggested high D fingering actually works better if you add the 2 lower right hand side keys (from the group of 4 keys) in addition to your fingering - it brings the pitch up.
The 2 better high D's on most clarinets are:
1. overblow high C# (2nd line above staff) with rh Eb key
or
2. TR A
o
x
x
2 side
keys
o
o
x
Eb
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Author: Robin
Date: 2001-11-11 12:18
If you're talking about the 2nd c sharp above the stave...
I'm sure you realise this, GBK, but up in this register, every clarinet will be different. The pitch might be fine on Wes's instrument.
Incidentally, I find it useful to have a long and a short fingering for high C sharp and D. For instance, I have found it much easier to slur from my high C using something similar to GBK's fingering, whereas in a D flat major arpeggio I would probably use something similar to Wes' fingering.
Up there, there are lots of alternatives. Just make sure your fingering is reliably in tune!
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Author: GBK
Date: 2001-11-11 17:05
Robin...We are all aware that alternative fingerings will always produce varied results as far as pitch and response on different instruments. I had never come across Wes' suggestion for the high D fingering. Usually, that pattern needs the addition of the 2 right side keys to bring the pitch up, and help with the response (if there is such a thing in that range). If his clarinet produces that note accurately without the extra keys open, great...I think my 2 alternative choices may work better on most horns...Good Luck...GBK
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Author: Micaela
Date: 2001-11-13 00:26
It's all about the embouchure up there. By the way, what piece requires this note? Or is it just a "I want to see if I can play it?" (I couldn't, I top out at an A# because I've never had to learn higher for anything.)
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Author: Ken
Date: 2001-11-13 03:31
Try these Laura, you decide what plays best in tune and speaks well on your horn, these should give you some valid choices for timbre variation, dark, bright, stuffy, sharp, flat, resistance and dynamic flexibility.
Standard Fingering C#3: Cover left ring thumb, plus register key, add 0XX | XX0
Standard vented alterations: (X=fingers)
1) Open left ring thumb, add register key, add XXX | XXX, and add right Ab/Eb pinkie
2) Cover left ring thumb, add register key, and add two right side keys (upper joint)
3) Open left ring thumb, NO register key, add X00 | 000, add right index finger fork key (lower joint), and add right Ab/Eb pinkie
4) Cover left ring thumb, add register key, add X00 | 000, and add upper joint throat Ab/G# tear drop key
Neato-torpedo!
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Author: Suzanne
Date: 2001-11-13 04:12
Hmm... I don't know if I would say it's "all about embouchure," I would like to think it is even more about wind, and hearing the pitch, and staying relaxed (though steady)... other than maybe taking a little more mouthpiece, these notes are fine for me with pretty much the same embouchure as the rest of the altissimo and upper clarion... am I an anomaly?
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Author: Ken
Date: 2001-11-13 11:14
I apologize and correct myself from last post, shouldn't have written so late after a full day's work and by memory without my clarinet in my hand:
2) Cover left ring thumb, add register key, and add two MOST LOWER right side keys (upper joint)
3) Open left ring thumb, NO register key, add X00 | 000, add right (RING) finger fork key (lower joint), and add right Ab/Eb pinkie
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Author: Laura
Date: 2001-11-13 18:22
Thank you all for you help and I now have a few different fingerings that work for me! Yes, Micaela, this is for a piece; the piece is titled Luciole for Clarinet and Piano by Gustave Samazeuilh.
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