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Author: Stephanie
Date: 2001-11-05 22:10
Can anyone tell me about step-up clarinets? I know that at Decatur Music you can trade your current clarinet for a step up, but I don't know what models they are. I think they have Buffets, but are they R13s or what? I'm not buying, just thinking I might if I get a job. Oh, and can someone tell me about there Black Master Reeds? or Grand Concerts? Are they better than V12s?
I'm just curious, but is anyone on this BB an auxilary in marching band? I was in there today, and all the auxilary from marching season were like, terrible players and they complained the whole time. Is this normal or is it just a Brooks thing?
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Author: Gary Van Cott
Date: 2001-11-05 23:56
When I was in marching band (during the dark ages) the auxiliary were drill team, flag people, etc. All non-musicians.
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Author: Peter
Date: 2001-11-06 00:33
Ditto to Gary's statement.
I was also in marching band during the dark ages, my last son left at home is presently in marching band.
Gary's auxiliary description still holds true today.
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Author: Stephen Froehlich
Date: 2001-11-06 03:12
Do you mean flags or people who are alternates? (i.e. step in when someone is sick for a performance) In some bands the flags are members of the band and play an instrument. In others they are from the drill team. In the bands where they are members of the band, the flag corps will not tend to attract the best players - good players tend to want to stay with and lead their section. In my high school, they weren't the best players, were all female, and reflected the attitude of the relatively two haughty flute players that were their section leaders during my four years.
The band tended to look down their noses at the flags, and the flags returned this with some attitude, but when push came to shove they worked their tails off. They certainly had it more together than my section did most years. (I had the low saxes - slacker central - this is Austin after all.)
Step up policys vary from place to place. Generally, they'll simply give you credit for whatever horn you want to upgrade to. If they have to order it, they'll still give you credit. Any instrument store in the nation should be able to order a professional clarinet from any of the big 4 (LeBlanc, Buffet, Selmer, Yamaha). What they keep in stock
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Author: Dee
Date: 2001-11-06 12:41
Generally the term step up means intermediate grade clarinet. So here is an outline for a couple of brands.
Beginner (i.e. student grade)
Selmer Bundy (although I think they've changed the name now)
Leblanc Vito
Buffet B-10 and B-12
Yamaha YCL-24? (I'm not sure of this designation)
Step-up (low intermediate to high intermediate grade)
Buffet E-11, E-12, and E-13
Leblanc Normandy, Noblet 40 and Noblet 45 Sonata
Yamaha and Selmer also have intermediates but I'm not up on the designations
Pro grade
Buffet R-13
Leblanc Infinite (note the WW&BW catalog chart puts this under intermediate but that is incorrect. It was designed as a direct competitor to the R-13).
Additional models by these same makers and by Selmer and Yamaha
"Premium Pro" (fancier wood, extra keys, higher price)
Leblanc Opus and others
Buffet and Selmer also have models in this category.
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Author: MICHEL
Date: 2001-11-06 19:39
HELLO HAPPY CLARINETIST!
OK FOR THE GOOD CHOICE: LEBLANC INFINITE IS WONDERFUL.
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Author: Benny
Date: 2001-11-06 21:31
Don't waste your money on a step-up horn. Buffet E-11s for example are not much better than the B-12s. If you are a serious student, you should step up to a professional horn like the R-13. It obviously costs more than a step-up but it is worth it. (International Musical Suppliers has them for around $2000) As for Black Master vs. V12 (I recently posted something about this), it's like this. Black Masters are cut shorter and narrower because they were designed for the German mouthpiece. I like them even though I don't have a German mouthpiece because they are more vibrant and give me a wetter sound. I also use V12s but only in band. I use Black Masters in orchestra.
Benny
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Author: MsRoboto
Date: 2001-11-06 22:26
Shop around too on the prices. I got my R-13 for about $1500.00 last March. It has nickel plated keywork though and I don't know what IMS is selling for $2000.00 it could be the silver keywork.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2001-11-06 23:34
Benny said: ..."they are more vibrant and give me a wetter sound."
You really didn't mean "wetter" did you??
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Author: Corey
Date: 2001-11-07 00:13
I play an E11 and have tried B12's and there is a BIG difference in their tone qualities! My E11 sounded much warmer and the intonation(for me) was easier to control.
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Author: Benny
Date: 2001-11-07 02:45
GBK-
What I mean by "wetter" is "not dry and reedy sounding". Sometimes I have a lack of saliva when I play so my teacher makes fun of me because I have a dry sound.
MsRoboto-
The R-13 I got from IMS for $2000 had silver plated keys.
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Author: Eileen
Date: 2001-11-12 07:00
In budgeting for a new clarinet, keep in mind the cost of a good mouthpiece and ligature. You might be better off choosing a less expensive clarinet and buying a good mouthpiece and ligature than buying a clarinet so expensive that you cannot afford to buy those items.
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