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Author: joevacc
Date: 2001-11-02 00:07
Hi all,
I am wondering what reed speed one would go for on an alto!
Playing just the mouthpiece I blow a concert C6 on my Bb clarinet.
If I were to blow the same on just the alto mouthpiece I blow a concert Bb6.
I have never been told specifically about the larger horns.
Thanks in advance...
-=[Joe Vacc]=-
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Author: Stephen Froehlich
Date: 2001-11-02 04:17
What is reed speed?
Does this have some relation to the "Air velocity of an unladen swallow"?
Do you mean frequency (440 Hz) or reed hardness (3.5)?
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2001-11-02 19:03
Stephen Froehlich wrote:
>
> Does this have some relation to the "Air velocity of an unladen
> swallow"?
Only if your favorite color is yellooooooooooooow ...
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2001-11-03 01:44
S F and M C , TKS for the yuk/yuk. I'd assume that the reed's vibration frequency is asked for, if so, Back to Cl Acoustics!! Don
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Author: joevacc
Date: 2001-11-03 01:47
Now watch for the ABYSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
I am beginning to wonder if I am the only one who has heard of this concept! I guess the word "support" is most frequently used here on the BB.
My private teacher from day one made me take my mouthpiece off my clarinet and blow into it. The note that came out was a C#'. (on my Bb clarinet) He said "very good, a lot of jazz players use that read speed." He also said that "most *legit* players (i.e.: classical players) will blow the D' with only the mouthpiece.
This, along with "holding the air *pressure* up," has for me, revolutionized my sound and made it very consistent throughout the ranges. Now if my technique was worth a #&^%, I would be all set!
Has anyone else been taught this concept?
If yes, how was it applied to the larger horns?
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Author: Stephen Froehlich
Date: 2001-11-03 11:27
Its an odd concept - one I've certainly never heard before. I think its meant to be a measure of hardness.
When you blow into a whole clarinet, the resonant frequency of the system is dominated by the air column. However, when its just the mouthpiece, the resonant chamber is much MUCH smaller, so the mechanical force of the reed becomes more important in determining the resonant frequency. The harder the reed, the higher the effective "spring rate", the higher the frequency of the small air column system.
On the other hand - this could all be due to how close you squeeze the reed to the mouthpiece - as I remember, this is what effects tuning more than spring rate/hardness.
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Author: joevacc
Date: 2001-11-03 16:12
No no! This has nothing to do with the with the strength of the reed!
Stephen I must confess I have absolutely no idea as to what you are talking about.
To explain further what I am talking about I will elaborate.
It is quite easy to change the pitch of the sound that comes out of only a clarinet mouthpiece. All you have to do is vary your reed speed! i.e. How fast is your air column is moving?
(Ok give it a try! I'll wait...) See what I mean?? Now put your clarinet back together and figure out what note you just sounded. The higher the pitch the faster the air column is moving.
You can, with lots of practice get a whole major scale out of just the mouthpiece by changing the air speed and your oral cavity, tongue position etc.
When I see my teacher next I'll ask him the question and post.
Best,
-=[Joe Vacc]=-
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Author: sarah
Date: 2001-11-04 18:55
This might be stupid, but dosn't air speed relate to dynamics? And why would you ever need to play a scale with just your mouthpiece?
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