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Author: C@p
Date: 2001-10-31 14:59
This is a double posting, here as well on "New Clarinet Problems" thread.
Please DO NOT Reply to this Post on the Other Thread!!!
This thread has been started to handle that mutated discussion.
The reason I suggested in the “New Clarinet Problem” post that we get back to clarinet problems is because while the discussion on politeness, the use of the words “god” and “God” and how to acknowledge a sneeze seem somewhat of a waste of time for those who, in good faith, look at a topic of discussion and waste their time plowing through the “correctness” posts in order to find some substantive information about new clarinet problems.
But, not wanting to discourage free speech, I have set up this new topic to handle what seems, by reason of the number of follow up posts on the mutated topic, to be a heartfelt interest in the subject.
The belief in God or the belief in god or the belief in something else, and the lack of belief in anything are very personal attributes of being human. The belief that one should correct others for disagreeing with what they see as the absolute truth sometimes has the intensity of trying to pull someone out of the path of a speeding car. It is seen as the right thing to do, the only thing to do, and the need to do so is so innate and overwhelming that personal danger to the would-be rescuer is not realized at the time that the noble deed is attempted. I suggest that this feeling can be on both sides of the question. I have seen non-believes just as evangelical in their attitudes and actions as believers.
I too, had I the power, would have everyone believe as I do. But I don’t and in that position of weakness I let others believe as they will as long as they do not infringe upon my rights to believe as I wish or as long they will not cause personal harm to themselves or others while in this life.
As a practical matter, if you are offended by language, you can copy the post to a word processor, run a Find and Replace on “god” or whatever might offend you, replace it with *** and then read the post to get the substantive meaning someone was initially trying to communicate about the subject even if the choice of language might not have been universally accepted.
Of course, if you wish to communicate your most intense thoughts privately by merely clicking on the name of the poster and let this thread die the natural death it deserves, you can do that, too.
So, here is your opportunity to expound on your personal beliefs and upon the personal beliefs of others without worrying if you include the word “clarinet” somewhere in the post.
C@p
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Author: C@p
Date: 2001-10-31 16:35
Sarah:
Yes. Let it go.
But if has to go on, let it go on here out of the way.
David: Read it again unless you think it will be a waste of time, which it might be.
Bob: Yes. Two posts. That was to try to obviate anyone missing the post. It is a transition device. If it does not make sense to you, that could be my problem in explaining it. The bottom line is to get the discussion off a substantive clarinet subject and out of the way.
Brian: <<Does God prefer Selmer or Buffet>> A ridiculous, but valid, question for a ridiculous discussion, and appropriate for this thread.
Ron: “ : “ probably says it all. Even better that “ :/ “
C@p
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Author: Brian P
Date: 2001-10-31 16:41
C@P, you said,
"Brian: <> A ridiculous, but valid, question for a ridiculous discussion, and appropriate for this thread."
Cool! A ridiculous person like me is always seeking validation.
Brian
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Author: Dee
Date: 2001-10-31 17:26
I can't figure out why you bothered to post. The thread had pretty much died out by itself.
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Author: William
Date: 2001-10-31 18:04
So,.....what else is new??????
Have a Good Day!!!! (and remember, post unto others as you would have them post unto you)
Good Clarineting--or whatever!!
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Author: C@p
Date: 2001-10-31 19:10
William: Good point.
Dee: Your probably right about letting it die by itself. I guess I just got somewhat impatient when I saw more posts after both myself and someone else tried to discourge the irrelvant thread. So, if the thread needs a life, it can live here somewhate out of the way of posts relevant to clarineting.
C@p
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Author: Sue
Date: 2001-10-31 20:23
What do threads have to do with clarinet? Is this about sewing?
Why does a thread have to live here?
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Author: Helen
Date: 2001-10-31 20:50
i don't understand your language. are u on something?
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2001-10-31 22:37
You know, c@p, you do exactly what you don't like.
As moderator of this board, I let certain things go on, especially when they're buried a few pages back. The discussion was only of interest to a few of us (I think).
But, since you've decided to start a whole thread:
The editing I do on this BBoard, the few times that I am forced to, do in fact betray my mores. I edit out what I consider obscene language, posts that are way off topic and contentious, and advertisements. I let things stray a bit once in a while, especially when no one one the 1st page or two are being bothered.
As to what other people find offensive - well, I can't and won't please everyone. References to god are plentiful - I haven't heard anyone complain when someone says "god bless" on the board, even though there are enough of us out there who don't believe in god. I was amazed that someone actually took offense when a poster said "I swear to god" - that's not even a mild expletive. If I were to edit out all the religious or secular language that people might take offense to we wouldn't have much left - words like "Geez" would have to go (even the dictionary describes this one as a mild expletive, and it references Jesus, of course!).
I always think it's funny when people start out a post with
"I hope this doesn't offend anyone"
because right away I know it will ;^) Let's say what we mean and stand up for it. Reasoned and reasonable arguments are good for the thought process - we <b>don't</b> have to all get along - we just have to accept that some people won't agree with us ... and horror of horrors, we just might be wrong once in a while!
Normally I'd trash an entire thread like this, but in this case we'll let it go - and in a couple of weeks, when it's two pages back, it'll be forgotten.
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Author: RonD
Date: 2001-11-01 18:22
Thank you Mark for keeping this BB on tract.
It's very obvious that with a steady hand at the controls it's possible to keep this board on tract. Without your help this board would soon become useless to woodwind musicians.
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Author: Mark Charette, Webmaster
Date: 2001-11-01 20:24
Actually, Ron, I let it get off-track sometimes because wandering away can keep it lively sometimes! I've seen thread morph off-topic totally, and then come back into the realm of clarinet - with a new insight into the topic.
There is a weath of information and mis-information that gets spread about here - I am thankful to those who correct many of our posters with delicacy and aplomb! Surely most of you are much more diplomatic in your corrections than I'll ever be ;^)
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Author: GBK
Date: 2001-11-01 20:59
correcting misinformation ...no problem!
using delicacy and aplomb...no problem!
sending Mark my favorite reed for his next concert...now, wait a minute!!!
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Author: Bob Curtis
Date: 2001-11-03 03:07
Inrtellect gone awry is a wonderful thing. It just goes to prove that you can say something and still say nothing at all. Think about that a while -- the ancient Greeks did a lot of this and proved absolutely nothing except that most of the time hot air always rises -- most of the time.
Bob (I think - ?) Curtis
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