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Author: James
Date: 2001-10-31 03:57
Before i would have said v12, but see they both have no starting making weird things im producing them like both have no can twards the top and no have this almost flat tip, no i would say grand concert
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Author: William
Date: 2001-10-31 04:12
Six of one and a half dozen of the other. Which ever one works for you is the "best."
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Author: Dee
Date: 2001-10-31 11:25
It depends on the person. Whatever works for you is the best for you. Personally I prefer the regular Vandorens but many people prefer the V12s
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Author: Sandra Franklin Habekost
Date: 2001-10-31 13:44
Have you tried Vandoren BlackMaster or WhiteMaster? Check the Vandoren website for specs on the reeds to compliment your mouthpiece.
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Author: Ed
Date: 2001-10-31 16:27
It all depends on your set up, what you are looking for, your physical make up. In short, what is best for you. On my set up, I find that the regulars seem to have more resiliency, more ping to the sound, which I am looking for. But that is only me. I have many colleagues who like the V12. Try both and figure it out for yourself. Just keep in mind that go about 1/2 strength harder on the V12 to get the equivalent strength.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2001-10-31 16:58
The V12's, being a different profile than the Traditional reeds, are comparatively thicker, however be aware of what Greg Smith so clearly wrote on the recent post concerning Morre reeds:
"The V12 style would never have been developed if it were not for it's predecessor, the Morre. The difference being -amongst other things - that it seems Vandoren wanted the V12 to play right out of the box for mass marketing purposes...hence the comparative flimsy quality of the V12's
in relation to the Morres of the 1960's and early 70's".
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Author: Ed
Date: 2001-10-31 18:17
What is said above is an important point. For me at least, the V12 does not have the same life as the traditional. Also, being a different type of cane, even though the V12 is marketed as a Morre cut, I never found them to play the same as the Morre.
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Author: Hiroshi
Date: 2001-10-31 23:29
Alexander Classic is another (improved they say) copy of MORRE.
These MORRE copies have these characteristics:
1)Thicker heel: 3.15-3.20 mm rather than 2.8 mm of standard Vandoren.
This is said to have a more projection by some of players.
2)Width narrowing toward the heel(German style) :enhancing vibration?
My Greg Smith Kasper style mouthpiece with a very narrow width lay matches V12 or Alexander Classic, better obviously.
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Author: Bob Culbreth
Date: 2001-11-01 01:53
I use both. I generally prefer the original. Recently however, the humidity dropped to near zero and I found the V12s worked better. A week later the humidity is back up to normal and I cannot find a V12 that will work. So I'm back to regulars which are working fine.
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2001-11-01 09:37
Could it be largely a profit exercise....
Market something a that is more expensive, even though it may cost no more to produce, and many buyers will assume from the higher price that it is better, convince themselves that this is true (to be in line with the similar perceptions of the masses - a security thing!), and willingly provide more profit for the manufacturer.
I suspect we are seeing some of this syndrome in the frequent, higher-priced, new models of instruments.
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Author: C@p
Date: 2001-11-01 13:26
Are there paricular reeds that usually play well with a VanDoren B45?
C@p
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Author: Christopher Davis
Date: 2001-11-02 02:28
Neither...
Try Grand Concert Select Thick Blanks.
I abandoned all Vandorens after my first try of these reeds... GC's are much more consistent, and they last longer. Their sound is robust and generally darker than most.
IMHO 
Christopher Davis
Las Vegas, NV
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