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Author: Daniel Bouwmeester
Date: 2001-10-25 20:44
Hello,
I have recently borrowed a Viotto N1 german mouthpiece from my teacher (he imports these mouthpieces for Holland). I have played three weeks on it in combination with my set of Buffet Rc's and seemed very satisfied with general tone colour and response.
I have then asked myself if German mouthpieces really are adequate on french bores. I've asked my friend René Hagmann of Servette Music Geneva about this and he tells me that there are intonation problems in some registers (short notes : left hand without octave key and high notes) caused by the smaller chamber.
Then does anyone know if the Viotto german mouthpieces have a french chamber ?
If not, the above stated is maybe wrong. I myself feel very very confortable playing on this equipment, and I haven't noticed any problems with intonation in the registers described by René (which I trust 100 %). My teacher (Bas De Jongh) is a very respected player in Holland and he would of probably told me if there was a problem. And by the way, in Holland many players who cannot afford Wurlitzers play buffets with german mouthpieces.
Any scientific comments about this will be greatly appreciated
Thank's
Best Regards
Daniel Bouwmeester
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Author: Werner
Date: 2001-10-25 22:29
It seems that Viotto offers Boehm Mouthpieces,
German Mouthpieces, and Reform Boehm Mouthpieces
with this German facing (N1).
So the term 'N1' alone doesn't tell you what you have.
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Author: Hiroshi
Date: 2001-10-26 00:02
There was a discussion on this matter in the past.
Please refer to:
http://www.sneezy.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=26668&t=26660
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Author: Aussie Nick
Date: 2001-10-26 00:57
I play on a Viotto B3 mouthpiece. Does anyone know about this model? Because I have seen the N1, reform mouthpieces etc advertised, but have never heard of the B3's before i tried them and bought one that I liked best out of 7.
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Author: Ed
Date: 2001-10-26 02:17
The link:
http://www.olivacr.com/ may help you.
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Author: willie
Date: 2001-10-26 05:46
Probably the best way to tell is to down load a tuning chart from sneezy here and then sit down with a good tuner and go over each note form bottom to top a few times. If its way off, the tuner and chart will show it.
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Author: H. de Nijs
Date: 2001-10-26 14:39
Heinz Viotto uses different blanks with different facings.
The most used blanks are made by Zinner in different designs which fits for Boehm, Reform-Boehm and Oehler system Clarinets.
The most known facing (in the Netherlands) is the N1 or N1+2 facing. See www.olivacr.com/ for specifications.
I'm using his mouthpieces with different blanks (Oehler and Reform Boehm) for different types of clarinets. The Reform-Boehm blank fits for instant perfectly on my older (wide bore) Fritz Wurlitzer Oehler instruments!
So the best thing to do is trying and playing with different combinations.
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Author: Gregory Smith
Date: 2001-10-29 00:16
DANIEL ASKED:
"I have recently borrowed a Viotto N1 german mouthpiece from my teacher (he imports these mouthpieces for Holland). I have played three weeks on it in combination with my set of Buffet Rc's and seemed very satisfied with general tone colour and response.
I have then asked myself if German mouthpieces really are adequate on french bores. I've asked my friend René Hagmann of Servette Music Geneva about this and he tells me that there are intonation problems in some registers (short notes : left hand without octave key and high notes) caused by the smaller chamber.
Then does anyone know if the Viotto german mouthpieces have a french chamber ?
If not, the above stated is maybe wrong. I myself feel very very confortable playing on this equipment, and I haven't noticed any problems with intonation in the registers described by René (which I trust 100 %). My teacher (Bas De Jongh) is a very respected player in Holland and he would of probably told me if there was a problem. And by the way, in Holland many players who cannot afford Wurlitzers play buffets with german mouthpieces.
Any scientific comments about this will be greatly appreciated
Thank's
Best Regards
Daniel Bouwmeester"
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To clarify:
There are three different machine made mouthpieces being talked about here.
1) Zinner/Viotto French style mouthpiece with N1 facing (made in germany)
2) Zinner/Viotto German style mouthpiece with N1 facing (made in germany)
3) Zinner/Viotto German-Reform style mouthpiece with N1 facing (made in germany)
*The N1 designation refers only to the facing*.
ALL 3 have different interiors to fit the tuning and sound characteristics of 1 of the 3 acoustically different clarinets. They are not (optimally speaking) interchangeable.
ADDITIONALLY, the French and German mouthpiece tenon sizes are of differing sizes. French sockets will not fit German sockets and the other way around.
I have had experience with both (since I play both German and French clarinets in the Chicago Symphony).
Gregory Smith
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