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Author: James
Date: 2001-10-26 17:49
I'm looking to buy a buffet pro clarinet. Now i know for years everyone just went out and bought the R13 becasue thats was the flagship model. Now i look in stores and i find the Festivals, prestige, RC, and R13s. I really would like a festival or a prestige becasue of the Extra keys and another other benifits but would it not be like an R13? I have also heard stuff about the festival not projecting enough in the ochestral setting and that the prestige models are way to resistant. Well just give me your feed back, especially if you play on one of these models.
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2001-10-26 18:53
My Festival has lots of volume and a great tone. In fact, it even projects well in the commuity band (as well as orchestra) that I play in. I guess it depends upon the individual instrument.
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Author: Jim Lee
Date: 2001-10-26 19:27
I like my Festival, but you need to play one that you like. Try lots of all the models and then you will begin to get some strong ideas about what you need to purchase.
Jim
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Author: Sylvain
Date: 2001-10-26 19:50
The festival is the hot instrument right now.
I have never heard about problems projecting, maybe you are thinking about the elite.
I personnaly like the RC a lot, I own a RC Prestige which everything but stuffy. They actually have the reputation of being more free blowing than R13s and festivals, some would even say too free blowing. I find the sound in general a bit rounder on an RC.
The R13 can be great, but it's also really hard to find a really nice one.
-S
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Author: Irwin
Date: 2001-10-26 20:43
If you want a Festival, you can get a great one that is slightly used from Brenda Siewert. She's selling hers. Knowing Brenda as I do since I bought my Opus from her, I can guaranty you that hers is a quality instrument. Drop her an e-mail if you're interested. She posted above on this thread.
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Author: Pat
Date: 2001-10-27 01:39
Both the Festival and the Prestige are good horns. I tried them out at the Oklahoma Clarinet Fest in 2000, and liked the both of them. I don't think there would be a problem with projection with them. Just try out a few of either ones and try out the normal R13 and see what you like.
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Author: C@p
Date: 2001-10-27 03:39
I purchased a Buffet Vintage R-13 last June. The tone is great except for middle D and C# and upper A and G# which sound stuffy. It also seems that each note requires different embrochure pressure when playing soli with other clarinets, particularly over upper register G. Generally, it seems to play about 18 to 20 cents sharp except on the bigger shifs in tone the higher I play.
It sounds darker than the Prestige and a little more fuller than the the R-13's I tried.
I have given up on the Vandoren B45 mouthpiece and am using the stock Buffet 125 that came with the horn. It also may be that I need still more time with the horn to get used to it.
Has anyone else had this type of exerience, or other notworthy experience, that can be shared about the R-14 Vintage or my problems of intonation?
C@p
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Author: C@p
Date: 2001-10-27 03:47
I wrote:
It sounds darker than the Prestige and a little more fuller than the the R-13's I tried.
Opps. I did not try the Prestige; I tired the Festival, the one with the extra Eb/Ab lever on the leftg hand.
C@p
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Author: donald nicholls
Date: 2001-10-28 10:35
throw out the buffet mouthpiece, and get lessons with a really good teacher who can work on tone production- unless your vintage is (by accident) a higher pitch model (the serial number will have an "F" in front of it in that case, i think) there is no reason for it to be that sharp (oh yeah, assuming you are using a barrel that is at least 660mm). Are you biting like crazy on a hard reed, or really tense in your throat?
I mean it about the mouthpiece- why pay that much money for a clarinet then play such a @!#$ mouthpiece?
good luck
donald
(why should buffet build such a good clarinet and then not bother making a good mouthpiece?)
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Author: GBK
Date: 2001-10-28 15:18
Donald wrote:
(why should buffet build such a good clarinet and then not bother making a good mouthpiece?)
The answer of course is, in Buffet's way of thinking, anyone buying a clarinet in the $2000 range or more is a serious player and will certainly want a mouthpiece that is individually suited for that player. Therefore the mouthpece that is provided is just an afterthought on their part. One size does not fit all.
A colleague of mine said a good analogy is like buying an expensive tuxedo and expecting them to provide a perfect pair of shoes as well. Again, one size does not fit all.
Let's not get greedy...Have you ever priced a professional quality string instrument? How about a pro bassoon? Most bassonists I know go out and get a customized bocal. Isn't that similar to replacing the stock Buffet mouthpiece?
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