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Author: Fabian
Date: 2001-10-23 01:28
I bought a Bb clarinet Boosey and Hawkes, model Symphony 1010.
However, I understand that this model is out of production, so could anyone help me with the background/history of this model?
Is it a student model anyways?
Can I use a modern day mouthpiece?
Thanks for any help!
Fabian
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Author: Joris
Date: 2001-10-23 08:01
It is a professional model. If it plays in tune well, it is a good instrument. I only have an A of it, but I assume the same applies to the Bes. Personally I prefer the sound of a Buffet RC, but as said that is personally.
As far as I know, it is the last English bore instrument that is produced in large numbers. The bore is larger than that of an RC (it's for that that it is more prone to tuning problems). It has no undercut toneholes or other gadget's like that, but at least with the one I have, the wood is very good and the bore and the holes are produced much better than with my RC.
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Author: graham
Date: 2001-10-23 10:04
You must get a 1010 mouthpiece for it, or it will play out of tune. The bore is very wide (c. 15.2 mm) and the mouthpiece must have a straight, not tapered, bore. Eaton can supply a new mouthpiece to suit, as can smaller mouthpiece makers such as Pillinger.
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Author: Joris
Date: 2001-10-23 10:51
Have you experienced yourself that it play's out of tune with a different mouthpiece?
I think it's actually a myth that a mouthpiece can ruin tuning. The only thing that really matters is the internal volume of the mouthpiece, as long as that is the same, the tuning will remain the same.
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Author: Daniel Bouwmeester
Date: 2001-10-23 12:07
The pre WW2 1010's a far superior to post war 1010's. This instrument is an excellent instrument (handmade B&H VS industrialy made Buffet), but it takes a lot of practicing to solve the tuning problems. If you're an english player and you like the english sound, then it's the ideal instrument as well are the new Peter Eatons. 1010s had to be very well selected to be really playabale (as well as buffet I guess).
Until late 70s everyone played 1010s in U.K. My mum actually plays 1010 as well as famous clarinetists such as Brymer, Gervase de Peyer.
By the way, Jack Brymer made some modifications to his 1010s (which you can see in his book: the clarinet), in the same idea as now what Rene Hagmann does in Geneva.
The famous Brymer recordings of the mozart concerto are played on the same instrument as yours. You lucky man !
About the mouthpieces, you can get copies of original 1010 mouthpieces at Dawkes music, Maidenhead (see the links in sneezy). They have moulds of mouthpieces of famous 1010 players there.
Regards
Daniel
Delft, The Netherlands
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Author: john gibson
Date: 2001-10-23 13:32
Why can't you use a VanDoren 5JB on the 1010? It is a very open MPC and pushes a lot of air?
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Author: Bill
Date: 2001-10-23 20:29
I got two mouthpices made for my 1010 by Daniel Bangham of the U.K. I'm of the camp that, yes, you DO have to have a special mouthpiece that fits this monster bore.
I'm forever vacillating on how I like my 1010. Unfortunately, I think the original leather pads are starting to leak (after 30 years!). It's barely noticable, but still having an effect. Since I bought it used, I just think I've never played it that it sealed perfectly. Then there are other times when I pick it up and I'm thrilled with the sound. Every time I read in his book how Lee Gibson just curses the suicidal engineering of the 1010, my interest is again piqued (!). Though I love the man's writing, Gibson wants the world playing on one identical small-bore clarinet.
De Peyer is the pre-eminent 1010 recording artist, with the honeyed, clarion trumpetry that this great instrument is capable of. --Bill Fogle.
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Author: john gibson
Date: 2001-10-24 03:34
Bill
I have the same trouble with my R-13.....somedays it works and some it don't!
I attribute it to me and my laxidasical(sp) practice sessions. I REALLY WANT A
1010!!!!!!!!!!! I just feel a big bore is my playing style. Anyone want to trade? I have a competely overhauled 1920's C.G. CONN with wraparound register and articulated G#? Beautiful horn, great sound. Just not "BIG" enough.
Sorry Mark.....haven't received enough response to my classified ad.
John
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Author: David Spiegelthal
Date: 2001-10-26 14:05
To those who claim a special mouthpiece is needed to play in tune on a Boosey 1010, I say, "rubbish"! I agree with Joris --- try a number of standard mouthpieces and it's very likely you will find one that plays comfortably and in tune with the 1010, even with a difference in bores. Consider this: The mouthpiece itself has a widely-varying cross-section across the majority of its length, and really has quite a short section of 'constant-diameter' pipe (the portion we call the bore). Since the cross-section is changing so rapidly just prior to reaching this short bore section, then is it really reasonable to believe that this bore must be exactly identical to the bore of the clarinet that follows? I think not.
Last night I spent a couple of hours playing very comfortably on a B&H Stratford clarinet with my regular Pomarico (refaced) crystal mouthpiece, bore mismatch and all. According to the tuner, I was within +/- 10 cents everywhere, and within 5 cents over most of the range. That's pretty darn good, and should not be possible according to the theory that the bores must be matched.
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