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 E&S vs. E&S Master Buffets
Author: Dave 
Date:   2001-09-29 04:03

After a serial number of K15,000 or so, can someone tell me the advantage of an Evette & Schaeffer Master over an Evette & Schaeffer? Does anyone have a catalog from the late 60's or 70's?

Dave

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 RE: E&S vs. E&S Master Buffets
Author: Anji 
Date:   2001-09-29 14:48

I am familiar with the 'D' series in that range, but have not seen any in the 'K' series that high.

That being said, the K5xxx Master Model I overhauled and sold last year had a straight bore (caliper check at both ends of the top joint should tell) and no undercutting.

This horn had exceptional tuning but was VERY stuffy. The LH spatula keys shared the same pivot.

The more current Master Models I have overhauled have a variable taper in the top joint (measuring close to some of the R13s I sold), undercutting was evident in the lower joint and much of the key work was interchangeable with R13s.

(They did NOT have the relief in the lower joint beneath the RH spatula keys as Dr. Kissinger has mentioned.)

These higher numbers have resistance in the places you would expect for a modern design and pretty awful throat tones. The low F and E were dead flat, the C and B above were dead on the tuner (spread 12ths).

I think the amount of care taken with these instruments makes them an exceptional value for serious playing.

Particularly in view of what customization costs, the value of the 'raw material' in these higher numbers is quite good.

anji

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 RE: E&S vs. E&S Master Buffets
Author: mw 
Date:   2001-09-29 18:13

Dave, IMO ..... NOT MUCH. A good/great E & S plays as well (to me) as a E & S Master Model. I would expect better keywork & undercutting on (some of) the E & S Master Models. mw

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 RE: E&S vs. E&S Master Buffets
Author: Wes 
Date:   2001-09-30 02:51

The E&S Master model I had looked a lot like an R13 but the lower register was especially stuffy in the low register. After replacing the pads, I undercut most of the toneholes which freed up the sound significantly and also brought up the general pitch of the low register which was quite flat. The second register was pretty ok in tune and was not affected by the undercutting.

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 RE: E&S vs. E&S Master Buffets
Author: jbutler 
Date:   2001-09-30 16:54

I have a Master Model with a high 18000 number, almost 19000. It has the individual posts for the G# and A keys, whereas the earlier models shared a posts ( a triangular design of the posts, I can't describe it well but I think most of you get it). There is no evidence of undercutting. The top of the upper joint measures .584
and the bottom of the upper joint measures .576. I don't know if that helps anyone or not.

John

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