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Author: SecondTry
Date: 2025-02-05 22:55
Sure, it's a question for Tom (Ridenour,) that he can best answer, but if B flat and A Soprano Clarinets have historically been separated into upper and lower segments to create less difficulty in sourcing wood billets long enough to carve an entire instrument out of, sans mouthpiece, barrel and bell, why would a hard rubber clarinet not be a single segment instrument like an Eb?
It's quite possible that this classic two segment design, even on hard rubber instruments, may have facilitated the sourcing of instrument key makers, where the tooling of machinery is already configured for dual segment instruments.
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Author: David H. Kinder
Date: 2025-02-05 23:40
YouTube:
The Clarinet: One piece or two?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nTZFBnMtzo
Ridenour AureA Bb clarinet
Ridenour Homage mouthpiece
Vandoren Optimum Silver ligature (plate 1)
Vandoren #3 reeds
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Author: RBlack
Date: 2025-02-06 00:03
Main two reasons imo are
1. Ease of machining, especially for complex boring.
2. Ease of transportation. Don’t underestimate this, I have a Rossi one piece body clarinet, and needing a special/larger case is my least favorite thing about it.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2025-02-06 02:40
3. Easier to find leaks
Personally I couldn't live with a one piece instrument.
.............Paul Aviles
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Author: SecondTry
Date: 2025-02-06 03:05
David H. Kinder wrote:
> YouTube:
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> The Clarinet: One piece or two?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nTZFBnMtzo
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Perfect David, thank you; right from Tom's mouth, which in summary finds two piece clarinets able to have their lower segment pulled out somewhat to counteract the sharpening of notes that vacate through this segment, that become so as play finds the instrument heating up.
Post Edited (2025-02-06 03:08)
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Author: SecondTry
Date: 2025-02-10 02:46
Of course these pros to the left and right hand of Bb and A clarinets being in two pieces, and being able to pull out on right hand notes, one would assume might also apply to the Eb clarinet, normally in one piece.
I wonder if this is because the downside to this two piece design: the slight misplacement of the C#/G# tone hole in most (two segment Bb/A) models to distance it sufficiently from the end of the top joint so as to give it strength, is a compromise in two segment Eb clarinets that would be just too much of an intonation stretch to make. ???
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Author: RBlack
Date: 2025-02-10 05:40
Interestingly buffet has made very limited amounts of 2 piece body Ebs.
https://www.clarinetsdirect.net/store/p312/Buffet-RC-Prestige-Eb-Clarinet.html#/
Personally I don’t make on the fly tuning adjustments on the middle joint of my standard clarinets. However I did have a thin tuning ring that lived permanently in the center of my 1980s r13 Bb. This was more to fill up the gap between joints though than to actually facilitate it being pulled out. It had big positive effects beyond just intonation, also general evenness in the RH clarion notes.
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