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Author: Ed
Date: 2024-08-15 17:55
I recall that in the past there were a few people out there who would "re-line" a barrel, adding a hard rubber core. They would usually enlarge the bore and then glue an insert into the existing barrel. There were several advantages to this. The rubber added stability and could also be done to change the existing dimensions to a Moennig style reverse taper or other design. Is anyone out there still providing this service or is that a thing of the past?
Post Edited (2024-08-15 17:57)
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2024-08-15 18:53
It sounds to me like something that would be expensive enough to be cost prohibitive compared to just buying a new barrel. It would also fundamentally change the playing characteristics of the original barrel so you would not KNOW what you're gonna get 'til you got it.
If you're looking for a durable barrel that is really focused, I'd try the Buffet Icon barrel in Greenline material. Best barrel I have period.
.............Paul Aviles
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Author: A Brady
Date: 2024-08-15 20:59
I had Les Nicholas do this for a couple of Buffet barrels a few years ago. A hard rubber insert is installed and then reamed to proper dimensions, in my case Buffet measurements.
It works remarkably well, and the bore will not change shape or deteriorate over time, as pretty much all wooden barrel bores will eventually do.
This is not rocket science, bore dimensions are easily measured, and have a major impact on the sound of the instrument.
Guy Chadash will also do this service, and several companies offer wooden barrels with hard rubber bore inserts installed.
AB
Post Edited (2024-08-15 21:01)
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Author: Ed
Date: 2024-08-15 21:23
Surprisingly when I had it done years ago at some point, it was not cost prohibitive, especially with the price of new barrels these days. If they are dimensions that I am familiar with, I will have a good sense of what I am getting. In the past I worked with people who would also tweak the dimensions to get to your "sweet spot." Overall, the risk to me is no different than trying any stock barrel or mouthpiece.
I forgot that Guy does that. Glad to hear the results with Les were good.
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Author: ruben
Date: 2024-08-15 22:22
Barrels get a lot of humidity, hence wear and tear. Maybe barrels should be lined systematically; maybe this should be the standard procedure.
rubengreenbergparisfrance@gmail.com
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Author: kdk
Date: 2024-08-16 02:13
One of the details of the 10G back in the 1970s was that its barrels were lined. I had additional barrels lined a very long time ago by Mark Jacobi in Philadelphia. I also think Mike Hammer, who is now in Newark, Delaware, did it. They're both still working, so they may still be doing barrel liners. It wasn't a prohibitively time-consuming process for someone with the right equipment.
Back then, the customer supplied both the barrel to be lined and a hard rubber mouthpiece to be sacrificed to produce the liner core.
Karl
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2024-08-16 02:34
The only production clarinets with ebonite lined bores I've seen were Selmer 10Gs.
And then there were Selmer Prologues which had plastic lined sockets and tenons for a perfect fit and won't ever bind up. I can't remember if the barrel bore was also plastic lined.
And decades before any of those, Selmer used a nickel silver lined barrel bore on some of their RI clarinets which telescoped into the top joint to prevent a sudden gap forming when the barrel was pulled out. The first time I looked down the top joint bore I nearly had a heart attack because of how wide the bore was at the top tenon, but then I looked at the barrel and it all made sense.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
Post Edited (2024-08-16 02:38)
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Author: Ed
Date: 2024-08-17 21:58
Quote:
Barrels get a lot of humidity, hence wear and tear. Maybe barrels should be lined systematically; maybe this should be the standard procedure.
I agree!
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Author: donald
Date: 2024-08-24 12:59
I just pulled out my Les Nicholas barrel (made for my Festival Bb in 2009 ish). I haven't played it in a few years as the mouthpiece I now use is quite low in pitch, and I need shorter barrels.
It played like a dream. I've got other barrels that are "good" (or "good enough") but this was something extra special. I went as far as contacting LN about making some new ones for me...
One great characteristic- the bore won't change over time.
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