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Author: Elifix
Date: 2024-08-07 06:21
Hi all,
Any knows if there is any publication that has individual parts rather than "solo live + full score"?
It seems that the Boosey's version is the later.
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Author: kdk
Date: 2024-09-18 06:31
What is the instrumentation? I'm not familiar with this piece.
Karl
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Author: RBlack
Date: 2024-09-18 08:23
I’ve wondered this too last time I thought about playing it!
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Author: kdk
Date: 2024-09-18 12:16
I looked it up on Zinfonia, and found that the piece is composed (in 1985) for clarinet and tape, or 11 clarinets (8 clarinets, clarinet (=bass clarinet), 2 bass clarinets). CD accompaniment available on rental.
The composer, Steve Reich, says in his notes "The piece is a continuation of the ideas found in Vermont Counterpoint (1982), where as soloist plays against a pre-recorded tape of him or her self. In New York Counterpoint the soloist pre-records ten clarinet and bass clarinet parts and then plays a final 11th part live against the tape."
I'd be surprised if there's another edition - it's still protected and available as a rental or a purchase from Boosey. I imagine the parts aren't published separately because the intent isn't to perform it live with 11 players, but that the clarinetist performing the solo part will have prepared the tape ahead of time "him or her self." I'm not sure how you're supposed to handle the page turns in a score while you're recording the parts. Maybe have a page turner? But if you're recording part by part without a conductor, I think seeing the other parts as you play might be important if not essential.
The recording is available from Boosey as a rental.
Karl
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Author: donald
Date: 2024-09-18 16:48
Yep, everyone I know who has performed this had to make their own parts in order to record the backing. One player I know rented the backing and had problems with that (so long ago I can't remember the specifics, but it was a discouraging experience).
I've never played it as soloist, but have done one of the "backing" parts for another player's performance (as soloist). In theory there should be parts available made up by previous performers, but I think it may be that the circulation of these parts is inhibited by the (well known) fact that Boosey plays pretty hard-ball with copyright etc. (for example, players threatened with legal action for making their own string parts for a quintet version of Finzi 5 bags...)
If I could easily rent/buy PARTS along with the solo part, I'd almost certainly program this for 2025... but I'm not spending hours entering the score into Sib, or cutting up the score with scissors and gluing single lines together (to make a part).
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Author: kdk
Date: 2024-09-18 20:16
You could put it into Sibelius more easily than hand-entering the parts if you have access to one of the scanning programs that can convert PDF to Music XML.
The big commercial ones are pricey like the notation programs (like Sibelius) that read the XML files, but I wonder if there are less expensive music OCR programs that could do the job.
You still couldn't let Boosey find out.
Karl
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Author: donald
Date: 2024-09-30 15:02
Just had a conversation the other day about the pdf scanning/conversion to Sibelius dealio.... I've only known ONE person (Ross Gerritsen) who could make it work and MANY who have the same story- "we spent ages trying to get it to work and eventually gave up". I also believe there is someone active on this BB who has made it work, I forget who...
A group of composers were talking about this- and all agreed with the version above... my experience (admittedly about 10 years ago) was that I couldn't get it to work... per usual, results may vary and I expect the next posting here to be "what are you talking about, I do it all the time"
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Author: Morrigan
Date: 2024-10-08 01:00
I recorded my backing track for New York Counterpoint a few years ago in a studio. I just read off the score.
I performed it with Steve in the audience, met him after, he signed my music with a GOLD pen!
Note that he HATES it performed by an ensemble; this is a work for a single soloist with their backing track.
I have an excellent quality backing track I hire out for performances, is Steve-approved, 100% faithful to the score & metronome markings, and is used by some big-name musicians.
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Author: donald
Date: 2024-10-08 06:04
Great Tim, expect an email from me sometime!
(hope life back in Aussie going well)
dn
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Author: JulianBliss
Date: 2024-10-19 16:27
You can rent the parts from Boosey&Hawkes. I also have my own backing track I created when I recorded it
Julian
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Author: Morrigan
Date: 2024-10-29 12:48
Note: Julian Bliss is note one of the people who use my backing track
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