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Author: rgoldem
Date: 2024-03-06 16:15
I've been using the legere signature soprano reed on the clarinet with great success.
However, the problem is that they are short, and it is hard to find a suitable ligature.
By suitable I mean a ligature that is easy to put it in place and clamps well since the legere reed tends to be slippery.
Can anyone give a suggestion?
Thanks in advance.
Post Edited (2024-03-06 22:26)
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2024-03-06 21:22
If you are referring more to getting the reed into position before tightening you have to allow yourself a change in your frame of reference to the upper portion of the reed (shoving more side to side with more emphasis on an upward nudge for UP and vice versa).
Another issue may be that the reeds are really thin (up and down that is) so you may need SMALLER ligatures.
Here is my list:
Silverstein Cryo4T $210.00 (size 05 for German Mouthpiece!)
Silverstein Quattro $95.00 (also 05 size)
[I have all the Silversteins and these are the best sounding and most reliable. They come with an adjustable string length (Allen wrench included) and I actually adjust the the German size which is already smaller down a bit further]
Vandoren Optimum Bb German $92.00 (Weiner Music)
[I recommend the plate with the 4 dots as best.....you may want to try the others as well]
Luyben $15.00 (also available at Weiner Music)
The overall winner under ANY circumstance for me is the Vandoren German Optimum, but I interchange a lot........and use some others as well but with some greater tradeoffs in usability.
..............Paul Aviles
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Author: SecondTry
Date: 2024-03-07 01:32
Paul, excuse/forgive me.
It is entirely--and I mean ENTIRELY possible I am wrong--and if I am correct, your being "wrong" is purely a function, IMHO, of a less then ideally worded question by the OP.
Might the OP be using a Soprano Saxophone reed on a Soprano Bb clarinet like I think Morales is/was for a time? My "tell" here was the shortness factor.
If I am correct, I tried this for a while without much success, BUT..otherwise found that least expensive Eb clarinet ligature I could buy from the aforementioned Weiner music worked perfectly to hold the shorter reed in place.
Post Edited (2024-03-07 01:42)
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2024-03-07 02:32
No problem Second Try........we are ALL on the same page.
I am currently using Legere Signature Soprano Saxophone reeds on Bb clarinet as well. Rather than get even wordier, I just plowed ahead with what I have been using that HOLDS them well on the mouthpiece, and (for what it's worth) seemed to allow the reeds to work best (there are a bunch of ligatures that hold ok but just don't allow the reeds to resonate well).
The problem I ran into with Eb ligatures is that many of them are just TOO small. It is worth looking (really looking) for ligatures that offer a German mouthpiece option since those mouthpieces are narrower and the corresponding ligature is smaller but not......microscopic.
..............Paul Aviles
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Author: mddds
Date: 2024-03-07 02:46
i use string.
it helps if your mpc has any lines, grooves, or a shoulder.
-CK
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Author: rgoldem
Date: 2024-03-07 03:26
Thank you all. I should have made myself clearer. My question was about using the Legere Signature Soprano Saxophone reed on a Bb clarinet.
I will investigate the possibility of using a ligature for an Eb clarinet (great idea!). I will also verify ligatures for German mouthpieces.
Post Edited (2024-03-07 03:28)
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Author: donald
Date: 2024-03-07 13:28
I just used a Vandoren Optimum for Bb clarinet with the Legere Sop sax reed, but with some "padding" (sheet cork) on the inside. Initially- before I could get the cork glued into the ligature- I just stuck a few mouthpiece patches on to the mouthpiece to "bulk it out".
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2024-03-07 18:38
I'd say that works, but damping material WILL change the response of the ligature/reed/mouthpiece system. Maybe one will like that better; maybe not.
............Paul Aviles
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Author: graham
Date: 2024-03-07 20:50
As PA says, Luyben works well. I use it with a soprano sax American cut on clarinet mouthpiece.
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Author: Djudy
Date: 2024-03-08 14:33
Luyben is great with Légère reeds and you can't beat the price !
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Author: donald
Date: 2024-03-09 16:39
At the end of the day, I had good results with this setup- Legere Sop Sax reed on Bb clarinet. The reason I stopped using it after 2 years was that I wanted to alternate between Legere and cane, and I found I was having to voice the Legere quite differently.
Here is a recording of the Ken Wilson Paganini Variations, ONE of the clarinets (me) is using a Legere Sop sax reed, but I'll wager you'd never pick out which one (one player is also using a V12 reed that they played a concerto on in 2001, the reed that keeps on giving....)
< https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CcbrQ98nA0&list=OLAK5uy_mQ9o34hZdx3-NwyIznZNusW90YrQNu8a8&index=16 >
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2024-03-09 17:21
Donald,
There was a recent post regarding a VERY long cane break-in method of 28 days taught by Robert Marcellus. Apparently one of the virtues is arriving at cane reeds that last (not continuous use of course) unusually long periods of time. Would you know if your colleague uses this technique?
………….Paul Aviles
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Author: donald
Date: 2024-03-10 00:30
Well, none of her other reeds last 18 years, and this one didn't really either- it just fools her into thinking that, then betrays her 15min later.
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