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Author: Reedlover14 
Date:   2024-02-29 20:29

Hi,

I am a current high school student making a list to apply to music conservatories and schools next year. I have been told to go for the teacher but I don't know how to decide which teachers are the best and where they teach. I am thinking of applying to a few safety, a few mid, and a few reach. Does anyone have any recommendations for teachers in the US with successful students?

Kim

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 Re: Colleges
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2024-02-29 21:05

Howard Klug - Indiana University





............Paul Aviles



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 Re: Colleges
Author: lydian 
Date:   2024-03-01 00:12

Found this on Reddit. It's a few years old. But profs probably don't move around much for tenure reasons. You'll probably want to talk to them to see who is best for you. There really is no "best".

Richard Hawkins at Oberlin is probably the best teacher in the nation for undergrad studies.

Richie Hawley at Rice University. His students get jobs. All you need to know.

Yehuda Gilad at University of Southern Califorina. His students also get jobs.

Michael Wayne at New England Conservatory. I took a lesson with him and found his explanations very thorough and easy to understand. A very insightful teacher who taught me a lot in a very short time.

I've never met or worked with James Campbell, but Howard Klug and Eli Eban are both wonderful teachers.

Ron Aufmann at University of Cincinnati College-Conservatory of Music (I'm doing my masters with him next year)

University of Michigan with Dan Gilbert and Chad Burrow. I've met with Chad, and he's an excellent player. Dan seems a bit out there from what I've heard, but he has an excellent reputation as a teacher as well.

Phil Paglialonga at University of North Texas. I did my undergraduate with him when he was at Virginia Tech, but he's moving there next year. He's a bit of a hidden gem, but he really put VT on the map for clarinet and I think he's going to continue to do great work at UNT.

Joseph Eller at University of South Carolina. I know him only by reputation, but I've heard nothing but positive things.

Deborah Chodacki at Louisiana State University. I have taken two lessons with her, and she is the kindest and most considerate person I have ever met, but still has precise explanations and does not hold back in her criticisms. I actually wanted to study with her for grad school, but CCM gave me a better scholarship offer. She said they have more scholarship money available for undergraduates.

Juilliard School - Charles Neidich

Eastman - Jon Manasse

Curtis - Anthony McGill

University of Texis at Austin - Jonathan Gunn

Hartt School - Ayako

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 Re: Colleges
Author: ruben 
Date:   2024-03-01 00:45

How about Europe? It's a really formative experience to spend a few years abroad. Learning a foreign language is also good for the musical brain.

rubengreenbergparisfrance@gmail.com


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 Re: Colleges
Author: brycon 
Date:   2024-03-02 03:36

Quote:

Found this on Reddit. It's a few years old. But profs probably don't move around much for tenure reasons. You'll probably want to talk to them to see who is best for you. There really is no "best".


A few updates needed:

Jon Manasse no longer teaches at Eastman: He teaches at some of the NYC conservatories. Michael Wayne no longer teaches at NEC: he teaches at Eastman. Deb Chodacki no longer teaches at LSU. And James Campbell no longer teaches at Indiana.

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How about Europe? It's a really formative experience to spend a few years abroad. Learning a foreign language is also good for the musical brain.


Some countries arrange their degree programs differently than the U.S. I had a friend who had attended the Paris Conservatory and then came to the U.S. for graduate school. She had a difficult time getting into Master's programs because the French degree wasn't considered the equivalent of an American BM degree (I believe she did an Artist Diploma, then, instead of a Master's). At any rate, just something to consider when thinking about studying abroad.

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I am a current high school student making a list to apply to music conservatories and schools next year. I have been told to go for the teacher but I don't know how to decide which teachers are the best and where they teach.


To the OP, there is no "best" teacher. Some of the teachers on that list have great reputations and are loved by many of their students. I've had colleagues, though, who went to those schools and didn't particularly enjoy the experience. They acknowledged the teacher was great but didn't work well for them. You should try and find the teacher who's best for you. To that end, your current teacher should help guide you because he or she knows your personality, strengths and weaknesses, etc. Also, you should have trial lessons with potential teachers and see which ones you enjoy working with.

If you want, email me and I can offer advice more candidly. Good luck!



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 Re: Colleges
Author: donald 
Date:   2024-03-02 15:33

Lydian- reading your list just made me want to give up music. At least two of those teachers are widely known for having relationships with students. At least another two of them are known to me to be people with corrupt ethics who *may teach you the clarinet* but also may ruin your future if they feel so inclined.
Some on that list are very fine teachers (at least 3 of whom I've had lessons).
Some on that list are the kind of people you have to flatter constantly, and it'll mean trouble if you ask a question they can't answer.
Whoever made that list was obviously quite naive and had no place putting it on the internet.

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 Re: Colleges
Author: ruben 
Date:   2024-03-02 16:47

Dear Brycon, What you said about the degrees issued by European conservatories not being recognized by US universities is less true now. Because of new standards set up by the European Union, conservatories now officially have university status and deliver university degrees. This may not be the case with Britain: Brexit oblige. Another possiblility for our young poster: going to an American University in Europe-the American University in Paris, for example-and studying music on the side at a conservatory. These universities are not all that demanding and leave you plenty of time for other activites. When you study music, it's always good to have a backup plan, as we all know.

rubengreenbergparisfrance@gmail.com


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 Re: Colleges
Author: eac 
Date:   2024-03-03 00:59

Read “The Inner Voice” by Renee Fleming. In this book she describes how not being able to afford Oberlin Conservatory (which is a top rated vocal training program but which she couldn’t afford) proved to be an advantage when she instead attended Crane school of music State New York university and received virtually full time attention of a strict no nonsense professor Sara Misslin which she likely wouldn’t have received at Oberlin. She later went to Julliard. Best to get a great relationship and training for your first professional teacher and worry less about the reputation now. Look for a graduate school with great reputation after you have a very firm undergraduate background. Resumes don’t win auditions.

Liz Leckey

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 Re: Colleges
Author: clarinetistrae 
Date:   2024-03-03 11:43

Hello! I am also a high school student who recently posted a thread too about potential colleges.
Donald, I’m new to the site, so maybe this isn’t the right way to approach it (a direct email?—in that case, my apologies) but if you are willing, could you send me an email to specify which teachers you were referring to in your post about not good teachers? As well as the good ones? I think it would really help me out, as many of those people on the “not good” list are people who teach at places I’ve been considering. I don’t know if my email is displayed, but if not, you can email writerrae1@gmail.com. Thank you.
And also, Reedlover14, I also can share with you privately some up-to-date information I’ve heard about some specific teachers and places. If you want to contact me, same email as above. Thank you as well.
And P.S.: Really, good luck applying for colleges! We are in the same boat right now, and so I wish you the best of luck in this process. Who knows, maybe we will meet somebody. :)



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