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 Roberto's Winds evicted
Author: Dan Shusta 
Date:   2024-01-12 02:24

Even though this story is almost one year old, I found nothing about this using the search function.

https://nypost.com/2023/02/03/one-of-times-squares-last-music-shops-has-been-evicted/

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 Re: Roberto's Winds evicted
Author: lydian 
Date:   2024-01-12 04:31

Moved from 46th St to 39th and sued landlord.

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 Re: Roberto's Winds evicted
Author: Dan Shusta 
Date:   2024-01-12 06:12

lydian wrote: "Moved from 46th St to 39th and sued landlord."

From all of the articles that I've read, the 6 block move was really a big deal.

1) The original location was just off of Times Square and comprised the 3rd and 4th floors of 149W 46th Street. There were rooms available for artists to practice.

2) The new location at 15W 39th Street is comprised of a smaller 5680 sq. foot area and is located on the 8th floor, suite 802 to be exact. No practice rooms were mentioned.

So, even though it's just 6 blocks, it appears that the new facility really is a big deal to Roberto. Hence, the 2 million dollar lawsuit.



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 Re: Roberto's Winds evicted
Author: lydian 
Date:   2024-01-12 07:21

Just posted what I found, no judgement. I’m on Roberto’s side.

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 Re: Roberto's Winds evicted
Author: SecondTry 
Date:   2024-01-13 05:43

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/04/nyregion/accordion-stores-departure-signals-end-of-manhattans-music-row.html

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 Re: Roberto's Winds evicted
Author: Dan Shusta 
Date:   2024-01-13 06:29

lydian, no problem.

I just sensed that there had to be more to the story...the real reason for the 2 million dollar lawsuit coupled with why Roberto was so upset.

SecondTry, when I was growing up in the 50's, accordions and organs were still a pretty big deal. I've been playing the double keyboard organ on and off for over 60 years. I was invited to play at a church young adult dinner about 10 years ago.. Needless to say, it was a disaster. Those in attendance were in their 30's and the sound of an organ playing was just not in their musical repertoire. I did play at quite a few nursing homes though. Very fond memories there.

I believe the clarinet has stood the test of time and that it's not going to die out.

Thank goodness.

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 Re: Roberto's Winds evicted
Author: SecondTry 
Date:   2024-01-13 22:19

Dan Shusta wrote:

> lydian, no problem.
>
> I just sensed that there had to be more to the story...the real
> reason for the 2 million dollar lawsuit coupled with why
> Roberto was so upset.
>
> SecondTry, when I was growing up in the 50's, accordions and
> organs were still a pretty big deal. I've been playing the
> double keyboard organ on and off for over 60 years. I was
> invited to play at a church young adult dinner about 10 years
> ago.. Needless to say, it was a disaster. Those in attendance
> were in their 30's and the sound of an organ playing was just
> not in their musical repertoire. I did play at quite a few
> nursing homes though. Very fond memories there.
>
> I believe the clarinet has stood the test of time and that it's
> not going to die out.
>

I take no issue with your assessment of the survivability with time of certain instruments.

My linking the article was rather an attempt to explain the trend of music stores moving off of music row, on 46th St in Manhattan, near the theater district, as a product of sky high rents, the conversion of these properties to living spaces, and the internet.


> Thank goodness.

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 Re: Roberto's Winds evicted
Author: Dan Shusta 
Date:   2024-01-14 00:44

SecondTry,

Yes, I read about the sky high rental increases, however, when I read the following:

"In the middle of a weekday just before Christmas, there were no customers to interrupt Mr. Carozza, 88, as he reminisced about the heyday of Music Row, when his shop employed 30 people and took in as much as $40 million a year.

“I used to sell 10, 15 accordions a week,” he said, adding that “my wife used to count the money all day.” But now, sitting in a cramped office wedged into the scaled-down version of Alex Musical Instruments, he said, “If you sell one, it’s like, hallelujah!”

I interpreted that as saying the decline of accordion sales was also a primary reason to being forced to move.

My take...if Mr. Carozza were still making $40 million a year, I believe he wouldn't have had to move.

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 Re: Roberto's Winds evicted
Author: SecondTry 
Date:   2024-01-14 18:34

Dan Shusta wrote:

> My take...if Mr. Carozza were still making $40 million a year,
> I believe he wouldn't have had to move.

Agreed. He would not have to, but would be foolish not to.

Let's even assume his sales even better today than in his prime, the reality is there is cheaper real estate (not be confused with cheap) on the Isle of Manhattan than what was once Music Row, and the internet has motivated sellers to inventory wares where square foot costs are cheaper.

Yes, major metropolitan showrooms are still needed, but there also being places to warehouse instruments just doesn't make fiscal sense even if raking in the dough.

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