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 The Hook, and I don't mean "Captain"
Author: SecondTry 
Date:   2023-12-21 06:45

Someone showed up to a gig of mine recently with one of these:

http://tinyurl.com/2ey8cuv3

It s a hook that attaches to the music stand that takes weight off the instrument, but not with additional stress on the shoulders and neck.

I didn't see it discussed here prior on what albeit was only a cursory search.

It's not for me: when I need support an elastic neckstrap Claricord and Stephen Fox neckstrap extension rod (ring mount) http://www.sfoxclarinets.com/Accessories.html is my preferred approach, but I thought I'd share.  :)



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 Re: The Hook, and I don't mean "Captain"
Author: Julian ibiza 
Date:   2023-12-21 11:31

Presumably its full splendor includes a $15 music stand base, and is all lovingly designed to ram the MP down your throat if someone trips over it.

Julian Griffiths
Tel. 34 696 798 853

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 Re: The Hook, and I don't mean "Captain"
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2023-12-21 15:08

I actually like this idea. And I don't see how someone would be running around the section WHILE YOUR PLAYING.



...........Paul Aviles



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 Re: The Hook, and I don't mean "Captain"
Author: SecondTry 
Date:   2023-12-22 00:57

For the orchestral Bb/A clarinetists tied to instrument support, I imagine it is easier to quickly change clarinets using this device than a neck strap. :)

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 Re: The Hook, and I don't mean "Captain"
Author: kdk 
Date:   2023-12-22 01:19

SecondTry wrote:

> For the orchestral Bb/A clarinetists tied to instrument
> support, I imagine it is easier to quickly change clarinets
> using this device than a neck strap. :)

Yes, but it's even easier to rest the bell on your knee or hold it between your knees.

One thing all of these inventions from neckstraps onward do is force a set position for the instrument that may not be comfortable or consistently comfortable. This device seems to determine the player's distance from the music on the stand, and depending on where you set its height, the angle of the mouthpiece (or oboe reed) coming out of your mouth. For me, it seems too limiting.

Karl

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 Re: The Hook, and I don't mean "Captain"
Author: Hunter_100 
Date:   2023-12-22 04:58

Does a protrusion in the bell affect tone or intonation? Seems like it may.

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 Re: The Hook, and I don't mean "Captain"
Author: kdk 
Date:   2023-12-22 05:44

Hunter_100 wrote:

> Does a protrusion in the bell affect tone or intonation? Seems
> like it may.

Your ears will tell you.

Karl

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 Re: The Hook, and I don't mean "Captain"
Author: SecondTry 
Date:   2023-12-22 05:57

kdk wrote:

> SecondTry wrote:
>
> > For the orchestral Bb/A clarinetists tied to instrument
> > support, I imagine it is easier to quickly change clarinets
> > using this device than a neck strap. :)
>
> Yes, but it's even easier to rest the bell on your knee or hold
> it between your knees.
>
> One thing all of these inventions from neckstraps onward do is
> force a set position for the instrument that may not be
> comfortable or consistently comfortable. This device seems to
> determine the player's distance from the music on the stand,
> and depending on where you set its height, the angle of the
> mouthpiece (or oboe reed) coming out of your mouth. For me, it
> seems too limiting.
>
> Karl

I have "no horse in this race" and would say that if you feel this way Karl then by all means take the easier and cheaper approach you describe of taking weight off the instrument by yourself.

Where I do take issue though is with the idea that *all* neckstraps force a set position. Rather, I believe this is true for all neckstraps but one: the one I use: the claricord: which is an elastic strap, not a cord that when at its limit allows little additional slack.

The claricord simply takes weight off the instrument but allows it to move in all directions freely. It makes you feel like you're, at least from a weight standpoint, playing a carbon fiber or shall I say lighter clarinet.

The Stephen Fox attachment point I reference in my opening post distances the claricord from the instrument for me allowing no interference when doing things like fingering throat tones.

But that's just me. :)

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 Re: The Hook, and I don't mean "Captain"
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2023-12-23 10:39

I don't agree with the notion that it limits your clarinet position. In fact, unlike most neck straps, you can move around and back and forth from the instrument which is pivoting as well as being supported from the bell.



That was an interesting question about whether an inserted object affects the intonation. In a moment of boredom and folly during a high school rehearsal a few of us took turns sticking what looked like a short wooden stake up the bells of our clarinets. It occluded all but the smallest amount of the air leaving the lower joint. What we got was a low Eb!!!! Of course with something as small as this "hook," I doubt if there'd be any negative ramifications.




.............Paul Aviles



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