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Author: Jeff
Date: 2001-08-03 19:22
Hello,
I have begun work on the first concerto of weber's and have run into a slight problem. I would like to play the concerto with the most accurate articulations and phrasing marks that were intended by the composer. However, all the additions and recordings that I have listened to or looked at are all quite different, hence this posting. Does anyone know if the original composition still exists or if there is a good addition that is being printed now?
Thanks for your help!
Jeff W.
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Author: rutherman
Date: 2001-08-03 23:01
additions? or editions?
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2001-08-04 00:09
Look for the edition edited by Pamela Weston for Fentone. If it's like her version of the Concertino, the piano score will include both Weber's original score and her interpretation of his intent. According to her, Weber used some conventions in marking articulations that early publisher's sometimes misinterpreted. Later versions by the Carls Baermann (Heinrich Baermann's son and grandson) took liberties with Weber's scores in the name of performance tradition passed on by their father. She has attempted to correct this situation. Of course, considering that all but one of the clarinet works were created for Baermann, and there may have been some compromise and collaboration, a legitimate question is "which is more "authentic," the notes Weber put on the paper or Baermann's interpretation which Weber would have heard?"
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Author: Lisa L
Date: 2001-08-04 03:02
hi jeff,
just to put in my two cents' worth: have you listened to harold wright's recording of this? you can find a very good recording in on of his 'live recital' recordings. try that out - it might give you some ideas.
lisa
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Author: Tim2
Date: 2001-08-04 03:50
I have heard that the Baermann's took liberties and it was assumed they would take liberties. It is my understanding that is what Weber had in mind.
Authentic? Jack Kissinger makes a valid point in his last question:
<i>Of course, considering that all but one of the clarinet works were created for Baermann, and there may have been some compromise and collaboration, a legitimate question is "which is more "authentic," the notes Weber put on the paper or Baermann's interpretation which Weber would have heard?"</i>
I would add that your performance, whatever you decide, should be authentic to you in your ,ind.
Good luck in learning this great work.
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Author: Todd
Date: 2001-08-04 16:29
My teacher recommended the Robert Lienau publication of the Weber 1 to me. It was edited by Carl Baermann. I haven't started to work on it yet. He also recommended the recording by Karl Leister.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2001-08-04 18:51
Aside from the Karl Leister recording of Weber #1, the performance that I recommend for my students to hear (also my personal favorite) is the one by Jon Manasse -Volume II of The Complete Clarinet Music of Carl Maria von Weber on XLNT CD-18005. This might be a good starting point to develop your own personal articulation style and performance after hearing his interpretation. Worth a listen!
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