Woodwind.OrgThe Clarinet BBoardThe C4 standard

 
  BBoard Equipment Study Resources Music General    
 
 New Topic  |  Go to Top  |  Go to Topic  |  Search  |  Help/Rules  |  Smileys/Notes  |  Log In   Newer Topic  |  Older Topic 
 Easier concerto
Author: acusado 
Date:   2023-08-10 16:46

I am currently playing the third clarinet concerto by Carl Stamitz which isn't that hard but I am very bad with articulation and im trying to improve it. Is there any harder concertos but with less staccato?



Post Edited (2023-08-10 16:50)

Reply To Message
 
 Re: Easier concerto
Author: Hunter_100 
Date:   2023-08-10 17:57

Fantasy Pieces by Schumann, six studies in english folk song by V. Williams (except maybe the 6th one).

Reply To Message
 
 Re: Easier concerto
Author: kdk 
Date:   2023-08-10 18:10

acusado wrote:

> I am currently playing the third clarinet concerto by Carl
> Stamitz which isn't that hard but I am very bad with
> articulation and im trying to improve it. Is there any harder
> concertos but with less staccato?

Any concerto is going to have a lot of articulated passages, or at least a lot of published articulations. There is the thought that you don't *have to* follow what's printed. Sometimes they're put in by an editor and not by the composer. If you want to work on a specific area like staccato, it might be a good thing that the piece isn't so difficult in other respects, allowing you to concentrate on your particular weakness.

Do you have an idea of what needs to be improved in your staccato? Do you know what to do to try to correct it? This is an area of playing where a couple of sessions with a skilled teacher can be very useful in keeping you from going down a lot of rabbit holes.

Karl

Reply To Message
 
 Re: Easier concerto
Author: lmliberson 
Date:   2023-08-10 18:50

Well, first, neither the Schumann or Vaughan-Williams is a concerto so if it’s a concerto you need or want, these won’t do.

But really, if you want to approach ANY kind of viable repertoire, it’s time to devote yourself to all aspects of clarinet playing, articulation being among the most important of all.


As Karl already mentioned, guidance with a fine teacher is the road you should be traveling right now.

Reply To Message
 
 Re: Easier concerto
Author: acusado 
Date:   2023-08-10 19:14

My problem with staccato is that I recently changed the way I articulate because I didn't used the tongue to articulate, and with the tongue its hard to do staccatos.

Reply To Message
 
 Re: Easier concerto
Author: graham 
Date:   2023-08-10 23:33

Joseph Phibbs’ superb concerto has only a little that requires rapid articulation, but it’s not really ideal to try to slur those parts (there’s some repeated note passages). So you have the same problem, that the lack of articulation is noticeable even when only rarely needed. Nor is this in any way an “easier concerto”. It needs a very decent orchestra and conductor.

Reply To Message
 
 Re: Easier concerto
Author: m1964 
Date:   2023-08-13 09:13

acusado wrote:

"My problem with staccato is that I recently changed the way I articulate because I didn't used the tongue to articulate, and with the tongue its hard to do staccatos."

I was in the same situation- my staccato/articulation was poor and the teachers I had at the time accommodated my deficit by giving me repertoire that had no or minimal staccato.
That bit me back when I was playing in an orchestra and was unable to play staccato passages with other instruments (flute, oboe, bassoon) in tempo.

Unfortunately, I was unable to correct the problem myself at the time.
Years later, when I restarted playing and read some books, I was able to identify my problem as anchored tongue, and started to correct it.
Two years later, and I am still struggling with fast staccato passages but now I have a great teacher and I can feel/hear the difference in my articulation compared to how I played a few years ago.

I definitely agree with advice to get a competent teacher. No YT videos will replace that.



Reply To Message
 Avail. Forums  |  Threaded View   Newer Topic  |  Older Topic 


 Avail. Forums  |  Need a Login? Register Here 
 User Login
 User Name:
 Password:
 Remember my login:
   
 Forgot Your Password?
Enter your email address or user name below and a new password will be sent to the email address associated with your profile.
Search Woodwind.Org

Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale

The Clarinet Pages
For Sale
Put your ads for items you'd like to sell here. Free! Please, no more than two at a time - ads removed after two weeks.

 
     Copyright © Woodwind.Org, Inc. All Rights Reserved    Privacy Policy    Contact charette@woodwind.org