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Re: The mysterious B clarinet

Author: crazyclari
Date: 2023-04-06 09:30

Hi Don,
The gimp/chupacabra/sasquatsch/beast of clarinets maybe.

I have taken the mickey out of the for and against arguments.

I am always happy to look at facts????
Please look at the evidence....

I am happy to review facts, simply saying no, (in a robot voice) does not enrich the conversation. Tell me, show me where I have got it wrong. As noted previously I have gone away and reviewed the information that yourself and others have provided.

You must have a rationale/facts otherwise...
Come over from New Zealand have a play:)

What I have is a clarinet with proportions/dimension/pitch with the original bell, unibody and barrel that aligns with a B clarinet in French pitch, 435.
Again I researched and provided the info that French pitch was used in USA. I did not make it up and did not even know about French pitch in the USA prior to this conversation.

I used a 3mm short barrel to bring it to 440 pitch. This would not happen if it was high pitched.

Following one of your previous response I reviewed the acoustic texts that i own and wrote roughly the following. Its proportional dimension are significantly closer than the examples of two current low pitch clarinets, as previously provided.

I have been asking for facts????

I have gone through the standard acoustic texts, buffet books, historical stuff, clarinet perfection, compared it to current clarinets and high pitch clarinets, provided photos.

Have a look at the photos the proportions/length for a full-boehm high pitched Bb are wrong. It should be the same/very close to the same length as a high-pitched A. The bell/body length is the same a low-pitched Bb, virtually identically.
Fact, it would not be this length if it was high pitched.

I would guess you have high pitch Bb clarinets, use a 3 mm short barrel see what pitch it goes to. That would be a great argument for you to present:)

We all know you cannot make a high pitch instrument play functionally at low pitch (or a semitone higher). The middle register octaves play at 435 with the 67mm and 440 with the 64 mm barrel. The throat notes which are bad with both barrels. There are some note that were flat, which are commonly flat on many clarinets. I just tuned, voice and corrected the symphony vii that I have, it had similar problems.

I agree a clarinet in:
-B in 452 high pitch is crazy.
-Bb pitched at 466+ is ludicrous as it could never be used in an orchestra.
-B at 435 is just about as wacky, guess what it looks like it is....

Happy to have it wrong please tell me what is wrong with the evidence I have provided so far. Happy to provide more photos....

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