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 Tarnished metal ligatures, sound radiation and response
Author: Jimis4klar 
Date:   2023-03-26 22:48

If anyone has experienced metal ligatures getting tarnished over time, do you notice any change in response or in projection due to tarnishing. In case you do, do you think It's a good idea cleaning them with warm water and soda?

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 Re: Tarnished metal ligatures, sound radiation and response
Author: LFabian 
Date:   2023-03-26 23:36

It will take a lot of tarnish to make the sound brittle. But like a new car, it’s better to keep it in shape and good looking for resale. Otherwise, leave it and get non tarnishable ligatures. Tarnished ligatures do give off a slight odor.

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 Re: Tarnished metal ligatures, sound radiation and response
Author: Tom H 
Date:   2023-03-27 01:39

I've never really noticed it. Don't think it would affect the sound.

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 Re: Tarnished metal ligatures, sound radiation and response
Author: donald 
Date:   2023-03-27 12:07

I paint my ligatures black with a sharpie pen, makes the sound darker and looks cool to impress my students.

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 Re: Tarnished metal ligatures, sound radiation and response
Author: lmliberson 
Date:   2023-03-27 15:33

Donald - Do you use a fine point or thick marker? Would a neon color brighten the sound? Have you tried spray painting a ligature with Rust-Oleum (darker sound without the rust, perhaps?)? Does using a Sharpie cause the intonation to be…uhhh…sharp?

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 Re: Tarnished metal ligatures, sound radiation and response
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2023-03-27 15:35

I know you mean well Donald.



So the more superficial the difference between ligatures, the less it has anything to do with performance. There are a number of different manufacturers that make the same ligature in Silver plating and Gold plating (and even a third more ambiguous "black coating").


The differences there, where there could be some tangible difference to how the material will allow the reed to vibrate (faster or slower.........brighter or darker) can be perceived but MAY not be worth spending another $150.00 to find out (my wife categorizes me as obsessive due to my multiple versions of the same ligature).


Tarnish does not change anything significant about the material or how it responds to vibrations (that I can tell).


For silver oxidation (if that bothers you) I would recommend a silver polishing cloth. The best of the them are red (and contain rouge which is a mineral that tears away at the surface of the metal causing the oxidized layer to be removed so it's best not to do this a lot). I believe Coca-Cola has the reputation for doing this as well, but I wouldn't expose anything with a crucial mechanism to the vagaries of sticky syrup.





.................Paul Aviles



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 Re: Tarnished metal ligatures, sound radiation and response
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2023-03-27 21:45

You can always electrolytically clean tarnished silver plate using a 9v battery with the object connected to the - terminal, some aluminium foil (connected to +) and an electrolyte solution in a glass and that will get into all the nooks and crannies a silvercloth can't easily reach: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTy7G34vD8A

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