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 Best Drills Source for Fast Learning
Author: BarrelOfMonkeys 
Date:   2023-03-17 17:47

Hi. Having trouble finding e-books with drills and warm ups designed for rapid skill development. Anyone know a good source? If it's progressive and systematic in nature, even better. I took a 30-year break from clarinet. Back on it. Thanks.

Tom
The Cosmic Pipeazoidist

And people say I monkey around...

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 Re: Best Drills Source for Fast Learning
Author: SecondTry 
Date:   2023-03-17 19:05

BarrelOfMonkeys wrote:

> Hi. Having trouble finding e-books with drills and warm ups
> designed for rapid skill development. Anyone know a good
> source? If it's progressive and systematic in nature, even
> better. I took a 30-year break from clarinet. Back on it.
> Thanks.
>

If I were a search engine your inquiry would force me to return no results.

This would be the case given your last criterion of "rapid skill development."

Now mind you, there are some etude books out there that are generally recognized as the standards and some that are not. So it's not like all books are alike. There are even books that focus on particular shortcomings like "left hand exercises," but barring knowing where your strengths and weaknesses lie, such specifics can't yet be offered to you.

But there are no shortcuts in clarinet mastery. Your next best thing is the shortest straight line, void of time wasted on things that history has shown to bear little results. And paradoxically, that shortest straight line is itself long, but the most "rapid [form of] skill development"--which I'll interpret your words to mean.

So lets drop that last criterion. That said:

First, there's this: http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=224152&t=224150

I imagine you could search some of these titles via google, requesting results in pdf format (put filetype: pdf <search name> in the google search box).

(Please don't deny any author or publisher their royalty.)

or this

https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3A+woodwind.org+etude+books&rlz=1C1CHBD_enUS896US896&oq=site%3A+woodwind.org+etude+books&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.6698j1j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

or this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YYk8okEQ10

If you have particular areas in which you or others have identified shortcomings such information could be useful.



Post Edited (2023-03-17 19:07)

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 Re: Best Drills Source for Fast Learning
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2023-03-17 21:15

Lately I find everything I need (besides the Baermann Scales BookII) within the Kroepsch exercise books. I and II are one or two lines of cadential work in all keys (two pages of those lines per key). BookIII is pretty awesome in that it covers standard classical chord changes across one or two pages in each key. Book IV is a more challenging version of Book III written in all major and minor keys.


What I love about them is that it gets you through many basic progressions and allows you to see them in every key. Most of the other "standard" etude books only have one rather melodic "tune" in a certain key and may not even cover every key.......the Rose come to mind.




..............Paul Aviles



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 Re: Best Drills Source for Fast Learning
Author: Djudy 
Date:   2023-03-17 21:15

I have always heard that whatever the instrument, to get speed you need to start very slow and work up, with the metronome. As confidence and control build you can increase the speed until you can play at the speed you want.





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 Re: Best Drills Source for Fast Learning
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2023-03-17 21:25

There is also this play along exercise video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wEEdfpTzhM



It features all scales and arpeggios as well as chromatic and whole tone exercises. There is a version in 442 (slightly higher) and shorter (less exercises) versions for daily drilling.




................Paul Aviles



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 Re: Best Drills Source for Fast Learning
Author: Dan Shusta 
Date:   2023-03-17 21:34

I just viewed this YouTube video by Eddie Daniels and I found it very informative for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9oB5lkexqk

Perhaps it might help you in some way.



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 Re: Best Drills Source for Fast Learning
Author: Tom H 
Date:   2023-03-17 22:07

As SecondTry said, there are no short cuts. I would start with the basics- Rose, Klose, Kroepsch, etc. Then move on to the contemporary style books. I started that bunch in college with the various Jettel books.

The Most Advanced Clarinet Book--
tomheimer.ampbk.com/ Sheet Music Plus item A0.1001315, Musicnotes product no. MB0000649.

Boreal Ballad for unaccompanied clarinet-Sheet Music Plus item A0.1001314.
Musicnotes product no. MNO287475

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 Re: Best Drills Source for Fast Learning
Author: SecondTry 
Date:   2023-03-18 23:33

Paul: I couldn't agree more about Bearmann and Kroepsch. If the phorum software that ran this bboard permitted taglines mine might be "a clarinetist's best friend are a metronome and an etude book."

BarrelofMonkeys: there is some irony in this thread. I say this because IMHO, one of the faster (not fast) ways out there to deal with complexities of, well, at least sight reading (an unsolicited plug mind you) is IMHO none other than Tom's (previous poster) The Most Advanced Clarinet Book.

Tom presents, by design--and its a good thing for the purposes of its objective to get the player to concentrate--etudes whose notes often present minimal pattern.

The Most Advanced Clarinet Book is IMHO, and again for all the right and good reasons, "the steel cage professional wrestling match of" reading clarinet music, where "the rules are there are no rules" as it regards mentally anticipating the next phrase based on the previous one.

Time spent in the pages of this book are like running with ankle weights that get removed once music outside its pages is returned to, which invariably seems easier to process in comparison.



Post Edited (2023-03-18 23:34)

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 Re: Best Drills Source for Fast Learning
Author: Tom H 
Date:   2023-03-19 01:42

Andrew, Thanks for the praise of my book. I should mention that an inspiration for writing it was a book "Sixteen Modern Etudes for Clarinet" by a fairly obscure clarinetist Frantisek Zitek. Some thematic development but basically random notes all over the place seemingly the hardest stuff this guy could dream up. I highly recommend it if you can find a copy somewhere. I found one at Buckley's Music right here in Halifax.

The Most Advanced Clarinet Book--
tomheimer.ampbk.com/ Sheet Music Plus item A0.1001315, Musicnotes product no. MB0000649.

Boreal Ballad for unaccompanied clarinet-Sheet Music Plus item A0.1001314.
Musicnotes product no. MNO287475

Post Edited (2023-03-19 01:44)

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 Re: Best Drills Source for Fast Learning
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2023-03-19 03:20

Still nothing wrong with drilling “standard” progressions since that’s what you’ll run into most.


Pick you battles. Do what helps YOU the most.




………..Paul Aviles



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 Re: Best Drills Source for Fast Learning
Author: crazyclari 
Date:   2023-03-19 03:24

Hi there a number of strategies such as backward chaining, changing rythym, applying motor learning strategies, imaging has been shown to get about 98% effect similar to physical practice. I have found in teaching the language and its use can have a big impact on learning. Mental modelling including the musical model can be great. Thurmond put out a book in the 50-60 which although in my opinion not well written is great.

Rather than looking so much at the 'book" motor learning (in my words) looks at engagement and controlled/moderate risk taking.

When you use the metronome dont set it faster and chase. Set the tempo and the push the metronome. It puts you in control of the next tempo that you are going to play at. If you cant manipulate the tempo likely you will set your self up to repeatedly fail with the metronome set faster.

Have a musical model for the notes in your head, listen to the best and analyse what they do with the notes. If you cant play that musical model to keep it simple (which it never is) either it will be your musical model or your technique.
I used to teach a strategy I called leading fingers. Simply all of the digits on the hand are designed to do different tasks, but yet we expect them to perform the same on clarinet. If you are going from F to C in the Clarion register think of you little finger leading the rest down. There are lots of other applications. Only do this exercise in one direction, as flapping your fingers up and down wont help.

It is about concious thought and engagemet with what you want to happen.
As Lance was wont to say it is not about the book:)
Cheers

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 Re: Best Drills Source for Fast Learning
Author: BarrelOfMonkeys 
Date:   2023-03-20 19:21

Thanks, y'all. I went with Klose (spiral bound) and Kroepsch. Those appear to be what I'm looking for. BTW Most of you remind me of mathematicians. Your answers are in the style I would expect from them.

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 Re: Best Drills Source for Fast Learning
Author: crazyclari 
Date:   2023-03-21 08:01

Ha ha, I reckon quantum physics is much more applicable than maths:)
Have a look.

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 Re: Best Drills Source for Fast Learning
Author: SunnyDaze 
Date:   2023-03-21 10:50

clarinet physics. :-)

https://newt.phys.unsw.edu.au/jw/clarinetacoustics.html#acousticimpedance

Adult learner, Grade 3
Equipment: Yamaha Custom CX Bb, Fobes 10K CF mp,
Legere Soprano Sax American Cut #2, Vandoren Optimum German Lig.

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 Re: Best Drills Source for Fast Learning
Author: BarrelOfMonkeys 
Date:   2023-03-21 23:53

I guess I'm referring to mathematicians with a bit of personality to them. I have a degree in it. In the professor world, some were far more interesting than the rest. And they tended to have interesting takes on just about everything, not just math.

Tom
The Cosmic Pipeazoidist

And people say I monkey around...

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