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Author: Connor1700
Date: 2023-03-08 08:15
Does anyone on here play the Fobes 10K CWF bass clarinet mouthpiece? Thoughts? How does it compare to a "regular" 10K? Thanks!
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Author: WoodsyBloom
Date: 2023-03-09 22:58
I don't currently play one, but I have tried one out while mouthpiece shopping. I played on an older Fobes from before they were 10K for years. I felt I could get a cleared tone and my articulation was more consistent between registers. I liked it a little better all around. I ended up getting a Behn sono, but the CWF was definitely in second place.
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Author: super20dan
Date: 2023-03-14 04:53
my old model san francisco cw bass mpc continues to dissapoint me. my selmer c* and old woodwind b6 eaisly outpreform it in every way. its reed picky and squeeks if not carefull. i loved the alto model i was sure the bass would preform as well . not so much
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Author: RefacerMan
Date: 2023-03-14 17:10
Sounds like it could use a refacing. Reed pickiness and squeaking could be signs of a worn facing.
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Author: Mojo
Date: 2023-03-14 17:20
I play on a Fobes San Fran AP. I also had a good Nova and a bad Debut (probably heat damaged). I put the Nova facing on the Debut and it became good.
Never tried a 10K. I think getting a tip opening you like may be more important than going up in model cost.
MojoMP.com
Mojo Mouthpiece Work LLC
MojoMouthpieceWork@yahoo.com
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Author: SunnyDaze
Date: 2023-03-14 17:29
It says this on another thread:
"I want only to add that the CWF W facing Karl likes on the 10K is an asymmetric one; that is, the measurements of the resistance curve on one side rail are slightly different from those on the other. Some players like this and others find it annoying. So if possible, it would be best to try both the CWF and the CF (which has conventionally matching symmetric side rail curvature) together and compare results before buying either. I believe that Fobes will send both out on trial (assuming he still offers the CWF). The CWF W matched the CF+
and the CWF C matched the CF. The CWF models have the letters CWF boldly inscribed on the front of the mouthpiece."
http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=500248&t=500072
Does that also apply to the bass mp?
Adult learner, Grade 3
Equipment: Yamaha Custom CX Bb, Fobes 10K CF mp,
Legere Bb clarinet European Cut #2.5, Vandoren Optimum German Lig.
Post Edited (2023-03-14 17:31)
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Author: cms*46
Date: 2023-03-14 18:58
I find this mouthpiece slight resistant, so I have gone back to my Selmer C*.
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Author: smokindok
Date: 2023-03-15 07:51
SunnyDaze wrote:
> It says this on another thread:
>
> "I want only to add that the CWF W facing Karl likes on the 10K
> is an asymmetric one; that is, the measurements of the
> resistance curve on one side rail are slightly different from
> those on the other. Some players like this and others find it
> annoying. So if possible, it would be best to try both the CWF
> and the CF (which has conventionally matching symmetric side
> rail curvature) together and compare results before buying
> either. I believe that Fobes will send both out on trial
> (assuming he still offers the CWF). The CWF W matched the CF+
> and the CWF C matched the CF. The CWF models have the letters
> CWF boldly inscribed on the front of the mouthpiece."
>
> http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=500248&t=500072
>
> Does that also apply to the bass mp?
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> Post Edited (2023-03-14 17:31)
Pretty sure that the Fobes facing charts always indicate when a facing is asymmetrical, and the only facing in the current chart marked as asymmetrical is the 2M*. None of the CWF 10K facings, Bb or bass, are marked asymmetrical, so I would expect they are designed as symmetrical facings.
John
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Author: HANGARDUDE
Date: 2023-06-21 07:23
Clark Fobes(with whom I have a fair bit of email exchanges) told me that the 10K CWF bass mouthpieces differ from the standard 10K mouthpieces in the blank design- the 10K CWF is similar to the Zinner blanks but CNC-machined in the US(by Wes Rice as with the standard 10Ks) with Clark's own improvements, while the standard 10K mouthpieces are closer the older Selmer blanks(C*, C**, D, etc.). In other words the 10K CWF's beak is shallower than the standard 10Ks.
While I haven't tried the 10K CWF bass pieces, I do play on 2 standard 10K APs myself as well as have some spare Fobes pieces made out of actual Zinner blanks, and I've become so used to the steeper standard 10K beaks that I don't feel the need to get a 10K CWF piece at this time. That said, your mileage may vary- those who prefer the Zinner blank's tone & feel may very well like the 10K CWF!
Josh
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