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 Weber grand duo concertant
Author: Random clarinet 
Date:   2023-03-08 04:16

Recently I have started playing the 1st movement of the grand duo concertant. I decided to look over some recordings, and the ones I heard had very contrasting tempos ranging from the mid 90s to 120+. This confused me about what tempo I should aim at for a performance, as this range is quite huge.

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 Re: Weber grand duo concertant
Author: bmcgar 2017
Date:   2023-03-08 04:49

Play it at the tempo you can play it cleanly at and at a tempo that pleases you and that is reasonably in line with what accomplished players play it at.

There's no such thing as The Clarinet Police unless you're an academic.

B.

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 Re: Weber grand duo concertant
Author: Random clarinet 
Date:   2023-03-08 06:25

Another question i had was how to make the long runs without breathes in the 3rd movement more stable, as I’ve been running out of breath a lot and it results in rushing.

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 Re: Weber grand duo concertant
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2023-03-08 07:45

The longest stretch of continuous sixths is letter M (Peters Edition), last page, four bars of rising chromatic gestures ending in that repetitive three groups of four. You can grab breaths after either or both of those dotted quarter trills. But you can save a LOT of breath by really keeping the dynamic of those first four bars very soft (as indicated), only giving a little surges at the end of the second and fourth bars.





..........Paul Aviles



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 Re: Weber grand duo concertant
Author: Random clarinet 
Date:   2023-03-08 08:15

That is a very good suggestion ill be sure to try out. After I finish the grand duo concertante, I’ve also been planning to move forward to the 3rd movement of Weber’s 2nd, or the 4th of the quintet. I’m having some trouble picking between them and would like some pros and cons of both pieces.

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 Re: Weber grand duo concertant
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2023-03-08 15:39

Good for you! Those are both technically challenging. For me, the quintet is really great idiomatic writing so even if there is a piano transcription (for easy inclusion on a recital) it works best as a quintet. The concertos are more strictly accompaniment writing and work well as just piano reductions. That said I find the quintet more musical.


Here is just the first thing that came up for my search to refresh my memory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sxJpAg0f6c


Giovanin Punzi is pretty amazing. I wonder if shoes would have made him play better or worse.




...............Paul Aviles



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 Re: Weber grand duo concertant
Author: donald 
Date:   2023-03-09 02:08

Oddly enough Weber made a piano part for the quintet himself so it could be played as a sonata (I'd be confident increased sales/revenue was also something to do withvit!)

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 Re: Weber grand duo concertant
Author: Random clarinet 
Date:   2023-03-09 03:34

The last 2 pages of the quintet are a nightmare.
https://s9.imslp.org/files/imglnks/usimg/3/33/IMSLP206688-PMLP301079-Weber_-_Clarinet_Quintet_in_B_flat_major_Op34_clarinet.pdf

The last and 2nd page of the weber 2 are also rlly hard looking

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