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 Gliss This!
Author: SecondTry 
Date:   2022-10-24 01:26

...that subject almost sounds like you'd be telling somebody off. ;)

....but not here.....

Instead, how might one gliss from a double high F6 [F6] to a Bb 6 [Bb6] as required at about 1:42 in Mangani's wonderful "Blues" for clarinet?

https://youtu.be/NimmG7I2V6M?t=102

I can handle your basic Rhapsody in Blue glissando as featured at the piece's opening, using a combination of mouth and fingers.

Is the gliss I seek though done similarly?

Maybe part of my problem is that to hit a Bb6 I'm probably grabbing more mouthpiece (for that "controlled squeak") than I do during normal play, and perhaps shouldn't.

TIA

P.S. for better or worse, using something like the 8th entry for Bb6 [Bb6] here https://www.wfg.woodwind.org/clarinet/cl_alt_4.html



Post Edited (2022-10-24 01:32)

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 Re: Gliss This!
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2022-10-24 05:07

I'd do it the same way you do the G to C at the end of the Artie Shaw. The first note is really an upper partial. So finger an Eb on the fourth space of the staff, but play the F sitting on top the third ledger over the staff. To get the gliss started I'd just raise the third finger of the right hand to get the high F#. From there it is a normal gliss up to the Bb.......that I finger ALL OPEN except for the second finger of the left hand (NO REGISTER KEY, NO THUMB!!!). Sometimes I add a RH sliver key vent but only if you need the extra boost.




...........Paul Aviles



Post Edited (2022-10-24 18:02)

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 Re: Gliss This!
Author: cigleris 
Date:   2022-10-24 22:45

I play this regularly and you can find a version I did with band on my YouTube channel. I personally don’t do a Rhapsody in Blue style gliss for that particular moment. I do more a true chromatic. I would say do what works best for you

Peter Cigleris

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 Re: Gliss This!
Author: SecondTry 
Date:   2022-10-25 00:18

cigleris wrote:

> I play this regularly and you can find a version I did with
> band on my YouTube channel. I personally don’t do a Rhapsody
> in Blue style gliss for that particular moment. I do more a
> true chromatic. I would say do what works best for you
>

I'd love to know your fingerings from F6 to Bb6 Peter. :)

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 Re: Gliss This!
Author: Tom H 
Date:   2022-10-25 01:30

I tried it and found that it seems best to start with the "covered" F. Seems there is more than one way but regardless you end up on the Bb with either just 2nd & 3rd LH fingers (no thumb) or just the 2nd (middle) finger. Probably varies a bit with different clarinets.

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Post Edited (2022-10-25 04:52)

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 Re: Gliss This!
Author: SecondTry 
Date:   2022-10-26 05:41

Tom H wrote:

> I tried it and found that it seems best to start with the
> "covered" F. Seems there is more than one way but regardless
> you end up on the Bb with either just 2nd & 3rd LH fingers (no
> thumb) or just the 2nd (middle) finger. Probably varies a bit
> with different clarinets.
>

>
> Post Edited (2022-10-25 04:52)


Tom: not sure what a covered F6 is from a fingering standpont. Maybe you can give us your fingerings, F6 through Bb6.

Cheers.  :)

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 Re: Gliss This!
Author: Tom Piercy 
Date:   2022-10-27 14:26

Second Try: The audio sample/excerpt you linked to in the original post is not a "gliss" in the style of Gershwin's Rhapsody. He is fingering the notes from F to Bb.

Are you looking for fingerings to go from the F to Bb as heard in the excerpt or are you trying to figure out how to do a Gershwin Rhapsody style gliss?

Tom Piercy

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 Re: Gliss This!
Author: SecondTry 
Date:   2022-10-27 23:22

Tom Piercy wrote:

> Second Try: The audio sample/excerpt you linked to in the
> original post is not a "gliss" in the style of Gershwin's
> Rhapsody. He is fingering the notes from F to Bb.
>
> Are you looking for fingerings to go from the F to Bb as heard
> in the excerpt or are you trying to figure out how to do a
> Gershwin Rhapsody style gliss?
>

Hi Tom:

I seek to perform those steps, which are easiest and most reliable, to glissando from the F6 to the Bb6.

That those steps may involve fingering only, or in combination with embouchure, or pulling away fingers as is normally done to effect the glissando in the beginning of Rhapsody in Blue is something I don't make demands on.

If someone had a reliable way to do this that involved switching hands I'd entertain that. :)

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 Re: Gliss This!
Author: Philip Caron 
Date:   2022-10-28 02:21

https://www.wfg.woodwind.org/clarinet/cl_alt_3.html
https://www.wfg.woodwind.org/clarinet/cl_alt_4.html

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