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Author: Sara
Date: 2001-07-27 02:18
I have never seen anything like this. When were wood flute made. I found this one on e-bay.
What do you thinkk of it?
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1448804261
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Author: Corey
Date: 2001-07-27 02:36
wood flutes are still made by private owned companies like The "Sweet hart flute company"
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Author: Mindy
Date: 2001-07-27 03:48
To mee it looks like a piccolo but I am not sure. I'll have to ask my mom I did know though that there was wood flutes cause like the Irish flute is wood. But oh well It looks pretty neat (the piccolo or flute whatever it is )
Mindy
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Author: willie
Date: 2001-07-27 04:11
Flutes and piccolos have been made from wood since the conception of the instrument itself, hence "woodwind". The earliest forms being simple hollow reeds from the local river bank. Hollow bones from birds and mammals were also used. The metal flute evolved from these.
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Author: Mindy's Mom
Date: 2001-07-27 11:10
Yes -- It is a flute -- too long for a picc. She asked me and even though I let her know, I thought I woudl let you know that she does know now. Wood flutes are great and most of the irish flutes are wooden -- *love that sound* -- oh well -- I would love to bid on it, but after buying Mindy's R-13 (and her wanting the R13 A)and her sister's Cabart oboe with 3rd octave key, etc, all this year, I think I will have to put my flute buying days on hold. So sad. Oh well -- I would rather listen to them practicing and playing and play the piano for them to practice solos, etc than to lock myself in a room and go without seeing them while I practice adn take the time away from them. Just rambling -- sorry
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Author: Pam
Date: 2001-07-27 11:18
I applaude you, Mindy's Mom. It's great that you are investing your time and money in your children right now. Hopefully, they appreciate it.
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Author: Eoin McAuley
Date: 2001-07-27 12:06
Flute makers experimented with conical bore in the 19th century, as far as I remember, but with the invention of the parabolic head they reverted to using cylindrical bore.
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2001-07-27 13:34
Sara -
It's definitely a flute -- the Boehm mechanism on a wood body. It's difficult to tell from the pictures whether it has a cylindrical or a reverse conical bore (tapering from top to bottom). The instrument as a whole looks cylindrical, but the bottom of the foot joint is quite small. My guess is cylindrical.
Wood cylindrical Boehm flutes were very popular 75-100 years ago and are still made. Most English players used wood flutes made by the Rudall Carte company up to even 50 years ago.
Jacques Zoon, principal flute in the Boston Symphony and one of the finest players in the world, plays a wood flute and encourges his students to do so, too.
Both Haynes and Powell have begun making wood flutes again. Most professional quality piccolos are wood, with a reverse-conical bore. Most specialist head joint makers offer a wood head joint for a metal flute body, and Haynes offers piccolos that are all wood, all silver or silver with a wood head joint.
Eoin -
Most rennaisance flutes had cylindrical bores, but by the baroque period and through the classical period for over 200 years, all of them were reverse conical. As shown by the flute Bill's posting points to, the Boehm mechanism has been applied to wood, reverse conical flutes. I'm pretty sure Boehm himself made some wood flutes, but I don't recall whether any of them were reverse-conical. (There are probably photos at the Shrine to Music web site, and probably the Dayton Miller section at the Smithsonian web site.) Boehm's fame, though, is based on his cylindrical bore flutes with a parabolic head joint. This was the "experimentation" -- there was no parabolic head joint in the renaissance, and no temporary excursion from cylindrical to conical and back to cylindrical.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: javier garcia
Date: 2001-07-27 13:40
Others wood flute makers:
Haynes (Boston)
http://www.wmshaynes.com/
Bigio (England)
http://www.bigio.demon.co.uk/
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Author: David Pegel
Date: 2001-07-27 17:53
It's a flute. Piccolos only have two joints. This flute has three.
I would love to have a flute like that myself. I play a little flute, but there's only so much a Chineese model flute can do. (Since Chineese flutes and clarinets tend to SUCK) But anyways, I've always preferred the difference between wood instruments and metal ones. A wooden flute would be wonderful.
What difference does the conical bore make in the playing? I've only played cylindrical.
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2001-07-28 03:12
Baines in "WW Insts. and their History" shows examples and describes flute history , including conicals, well worth reading, covers oboe, bassoon, clar etc. I have a wood 8 keyed flute which I have dated [by pics] to the 1820's, it plays fair even tho its barrel is cracked. I'd guess the one on Ebay is 1875-1900, and partially open-holed! Bid it up!! Don
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Author: salmon moose
Date: 2001-07-28 06:40
Lile this one time, at band camp...
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Author: Josh
Date: 2001-07-28 09:29
and since we're talking about wood flutes...(my newest obsession)...if you're into them, check out Chris Abell's flutes... http://www.abellflute.com They play WONDERFULLY and are extremely gorgeous...I'm getting really tempted to get one. (Besides, it'll match my clarinets better :P )
Now if only someone would make a wood alto flute....*sigh*
Josh
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Author: David Pegel
Date: 2001-07-28 15:28
Don't tempt me, Josh. It hurts too much as it is. A bass flute made out of wood would be even cooler, not to mention almost impossible due to all of the curves.
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Author: Josh
Date: 2001-07-28 22:36
hey, they make contrabassoons out of wood, right? Why not a bass flute? It can't be THAT hard...nuttin's curvier than a contrabassoon, and they manage to make THOSE Seriously, though, I have NEVER seen a flute as beautiful as the Abell flute...and you can get it with a gold mechanism! *swoon* I'm taking donations...:P
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Author: willie
Date: 2001-07-29 06:46
Ya wanna see a curvy horns, look at some "Serpent" horns on the net. Most of these were hand carved from wood and very thin walled.
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Author: Josh
Date: 2001-08-01 02:55
ever hear one? They are the most acoustically incorrect beast ever created...there's a really good article about them at http://myweb.wwa.com/~ocleide/play.htm, and the rest of the site is awesome, too...it's definitely an interesting instrument.
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