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Author: jim lande
Date: 2001-07-26 01:59
I recently went to Blues & Swing week at Davis & Elkins College / Agusta Heritage. Great fun and a learning experience.
One of the suggestions was to spray leather pads with Scotch Guard (r) or a similar waterproofing product to greatly extend the life of the pads. Does anyone have any experience doing this or opinions.
Yes, I do plan to try it on one of my metal clarinets and will report back in a decade or so.
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Author: jbutler
Date: 2001-07-26 02:45
Be sure to use the ScotchGard in a well ventilated area. I've not tried it on leather pads myself. There have been several products that claim to extend leather pad life. I'm not too keen on the one's I've tried, however at a recent trip to a nearby Bass Pro shop I picked up some Nik Wax at the suggestion of the sales person to further waterproof the hiking boots I picked up. I tried it on some sax pads with a moderate amount of success. It comes in a bottle with a brush (which I didn't use...). It is also a lot cheaper than Scotch Gard.
With any of these products I suggest seating the pads BEFORE treatment. Otherwise you may not be able to get a good seat in the pad.
John
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Author: Fred
Date: 2001-07-26 13:06
Anyone have any experience with the silicone treatment for leather pads that Ferree's sells?
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Author: Rene
Date: 2001-07-26 13:26
Take care that it does not make the pads sticky.
Rene
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2001-07-26 15:14
I would expect most waterproofing treatments to make the pads more sticky, and we have enough problem with that already!
However i have Scotch Guarded for customers who have water problems. I have included the small tone holes and the bore in the vicinity.
The 3M technical expert I spoke to prior to me using this treatment assured me that it would not do any harm to the materials involved, and that it would not 'clog' any 'pores' in the materials. However he did recommend the fabric formulation rather than the leather formulation because the leather version includes an oil, and he could not say whether this would introduce an unacceptable property such as stickiness.
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Author: David Spiegelthal
Date: 2001-07-26 16:56
I've used Ferree's liquid pad preservative, not so much for extending leather pad life, but for making older pads more supple to allow their continued use. It seems to work pretty well in that application, and doesn't make the pads sticky.
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Author: C. Hogue
Date: 2001-07-26 19:02
Be sure to use the new Scotch Guard products.
Many older formulations containing perfluorooctanyl sulfonate (PFOS) are no longer on the market--3M discontinued them last year because PFOS builds up in people's bodies and the environment.
I wouldn't use Scotch Guard containing PFOS on my clarinet pads or my couch.
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Author: Anji
Date: 2001-07-26 19:16
Do any of these treatments pose a latent fire hazard, or only as the solvent evaporates?
I'm currently reseating and dressing pads with a Resistance solder kit, and I wouldn't want flammable stuff in proximity.
Whazzabout the synthetic pads listed in Ferree's?
Transdermal migration of toxins is a known phenomenon, trade in the couch for a pair of sneakers, and mebbe jawon't stick to the cushions?
anji
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Author: Wes
Date: 2001-07-27 06:59
As some of you may know, the Fox company uses liquid carnuba wax for a pad sealant on their bassoons. On the white kid pads of the bassoons, they put, as I recall, two treatments letting it dry and polishing it between treatments. In the case of bassoon pads, a wax treatment seals the tiny holes or pores in the pads so there is no leakage twice through the pad to the outside world. This is also great for sax pads as they too have tiny pores that need sealing. Clarinet double skin pads may not benefit as much from this treatment.
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