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Author: willie
Date: 2001-07-22 06:20
They used to be common in old military bands before WW2, but they were kinda phased out. I guess because the Bb is more controlable and easier for big fingers. The price is kinda high, but he'll probably get it as you just don't see too many around anymore.
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Author: Dee
Date: 2001-07-22 13:12
C. Hogue wrote:
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> Is this really a <b>metal</b> eefer?
Yes
> How rare are they?
Well I've only seen one or two come up on eBay in the last couple of years.
> And is it really worth more than $300?
To a player? No. To a collector? Obviously yes as there just aren't that many of them around.
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Author: jim lande
Date: 2001-07-22 13:21
The seller has a lot of experience with saxes and clarinets, so if he says it is an eefer, than it is. The Columbia model was the intermediate model offered by Bettoney. I have a siva bet eefer (the top model) with about 1/3 of the silver plating gone and generally in bad looking shape. I like it and use it all the time, since it is the only eefer that I have. You have to keep the barrel 1/8th inch out to be in tune. I paid around $400 two years ago. Not too many of these show up on eBay. the same models in Bb can be had for under $150 and soemtimes nearer to $50.
I have not played a restored Columbia model, so I don't have a strong opinion on how this one would compare to mine. For that matter, I have never played a current student or pro eefer, so I don't know how mine compares to a bundy or buffet or whatever.
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2001-07-22 14:15
As Jim and Dee [and others] have said, YES, an Eb, possibly having the problems of metals as well as those of wood Eb's . The patent no. is 1, 705,604 [have copy, cant find!!]. Don
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Author: Jo
Date: 2001-07-23 03:24
It just sounds like a worst nightmare. I mean, few old metal clarinets get a good sound and the Eefer is just a little beast on it's own... together, that could certainly help me pursue the revenge on my noisy neighbors.... 
Jo
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Author: madvax
Date: 2001-07-23 20:24
I happen to own a metal Columbia model in Eb as well as a wooden Noblet in Eb. I purchased my metal eefer as a collectible item. However, I was surprised at how well the metal eefer played. The intonation was good and the tone was brighter than my wooden Noblet. All in all its a fairly decent horn, especially for a metal clarinet.
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2001-07-24 20:26
Jo -
The top of the line H. Bettony metal clarinets were made of solid silver and were superior instruments. My teacher Alexander Williams told me that he used a silver Bettony Eb in the New York Philharmonic. I found what I think is its twin about a year ago and had it fixed up, and it now plays very well -- about as well as a Buffet RC I tried at the same time.
I think Gaston Hamelin -- one of the great players -- used a Bettony Bb in the Boston Symphony.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: lynne
Date: 2001-07-24 21:40
i have recently inherited a Bettoney silver or nickel plated Columbia in good shape, patent # 1,705634. can anyone tell me an approximate value on this clarinet?
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