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Author: BethGraham
Date: 2021-12-17 00:35
I wonder what merit there is in responding to 20-year-old posts instead of starting a fresh post to make observations or ask questions.
I'm finding it a little frustrating lately to open what I think are new replies to recent posts only to find that the original post is many, many (many!) years old.
This is a little frustration, but I thought I'd bring it up. (Plus, perhaps it doesn't bother any of you!)
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Author: SunnyDaze
Date: 2021-12-17 01:43
I quite like it when we carry on a discussion that started a long time ago. It saves starting from scratch, and repeating things that have already been said on another thread. I do sometimes wonder whether it socially acceptable on here to dive into an old thread, if someone has restarted it from many years ago, and so brought it to the top of the list. I would welcome guidance on that.
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Author: SunnyDaze
Date: 2021-12-17 01:45
I reckon if it was about mobile phone technology, then an old thread might not be that useful, but I'm not sure that clarinet technology moves fast enough for it to be a problem.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2021-12-17 01:56
It is most certainly acceptable to re-open old threads - this bboard was started a long time ago (this one started on January 17, 1999 and was a continuation of a previous one); the old threads often bring up aspects that we have forgotten about.
Check the thread date if you don't want to contribute to threads that started a long time ago.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2021-12-17 02:32
Why relegate old posts to the bin when they're often still perfectly relevant to this day? It would be a total waste of resources if all posts over a certain age were deleted if the answer you're looking for is there and you may not get the same answer from the same contributors today.
Do you really want to erase history for the sake of your own convenience?
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: BethGraham
Date: 2021-12-17 02:39
Thanks for the info on post etiquette here on the boards. I will do as you say and move on from older threads once I've opened them, then.
Thanks, all.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2021-12-17 07:05
I thought we were bringing up fresh perspectives. Of course I do kinda dislike seeing some ideas that I held sacred fifteen years ago only to realize now that I was full of hot air.
:-)
......................Paul Aviles
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Author: Tom H
Date: 2021-12-17 08:04
I don't look for old posts to respond to. When I first joined a Scuba forum in 2007 (my 1st social media attempt....) I found out you ain't supposed to do that-- I found out in no uncertain terms!
Here I find that at times there is something on an active thread that I care to comment on, or at least read about. Some other clarinet (and Scuba) forums rarely get any new posts and thus very few followers. I have quit a number of those over the years.
But yeah, I see no big crime in digging up an old post and responding to it, possibly sparking new discussion. Actually, if you hang around on a forum or Facebook group long enough you'll find you reply less often, because the stuff you're really interested in has already been discussed and you probably were part of that. Hey, this thread gave me something to talk about. Time for TV.
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Post Edited (2021-12-17 08:08)
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Author: SecondTry
Date: 2021-12-17 08:21
;)
Um, yeah, guys/gals, is this the right place to ask for tips on upping my score on the video game "Frogger?" 8 bit version....
Can someone confirm that if I slowly swim towards logs and, once I reach them, I can tip one side of the log into the water?
If Frogger is caught in the side of the log, he'll lose a life. Can you avoid them by jumping to the opposite side of the log?
Joking aside, unlike me, clarinet advancement moves slowly so old posts tend to lose relevance slowly.
On the other hand, if this was a iPhone power cord forum, tomorrow's announcement would already be outdated!
Post Edited (2021-12-17 08:22)
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Author: ruben
Date: 2021-12-17 14:14
I would welcome posts from the 18th and 19th century, but I suppose this board doesn't go back quite that far.
rubengreenbergparisfrance@gmail.com
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Author: prigault
Date: 2021-12-17 17:14
ruben wrote:
> I would welcome posts from the 18th and 19th century, but I
> suppose this board doesn't go back quite that far.
>
Back then, the forum lacked the technology to automatically trigger duels upon disagreements between members. So nobody bothered to participate.
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Author: ruben
Date: 2021-12-17 21:51
Prigault: We could have learned much from 18th and 19th posters: technically, aesthetically and spiritually. And they wouldn't have bored us with information about plastic reads.
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Author: shmuelyosef
Date: 2021-12-19 08:12
The Boehm clarinet in it's current form is at least 150 years old...certainly 25-year-old commentary can be considered "current".
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Author: NOLA Ken
Date: 2021-12-20 06:58
I heartily admit to having replied to old posts several times. After returning to playing clarinet about six years ago (after 35 years away) I discovered this bulletin board. It has served as a source of historical and technical information and guidance for me ever since. Through it I've learned far more about clarinets and playing them in those six years than I learned in the eight years of school and college playing I had as a youth. (One of those years was under the tutorage of a very noted professional clarinetist who failed to solve a problem with my first pro clarinet that I only recenty solved with information from quite old posts on this bulletin board.) I view this bulletin board as much more than a chat room. It is an information archive. But not an especially well organized one, as a search often returns numerous threads bearing on the same information. On the occasion that I add a post to an old thread, I am usually doing so with the idea of depositing a bit of information for the benefit of others like myself who are searching for information. And doing do so in the context of an existing thread without starting yet another thread and having to build context. I understand that some of you may find it boring. You can just skip over that stuff like I skip over the discussions of arcane 17th century chamber music that I am unlikely to ever play. The breadth of information, interests and experience here is one of the things that makes this resource so valuable.
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Author: SunnyDaze
Date: 2021-12-20 12:07
It sounds as though it would be worth reaching a concensus on whether it's okay to respond to wold posts in order to keep all information on one topic in one place, or if people prefer us to start again from scratch once a year, or whatever.
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Author: kdk
Date: 2021-12-20 17:01
SunnyDaze wrote:
> It sounds as though it would be worth reaching a concensus on
> whether it's okay to respond to wold posts in order to keep all
> information on one topic in one place, or if people prefer us
> to start again from scratch once a year, or whatever.
I don't think you need a consensus, which in any case I doubt you'd get, one way or the other. If you don't want to respond to/discuss a topic in a 5 or 10 or 15 year old thread, start a new one. If you like, you can always refer to the old one and link it to your new one as a reference for anyone who wants to read through the history for context.
Karl
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Author: SunnyDaze
Date: 2021-12-20 20:05
H Karl,
That's a good idea.
I always worry about putting my foot in it on public forums, so knowing what kind of behaviour people prefer really helps a lot.
Jen
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Author: super20dan
Date: 2021-12-20 22:53
with as little action as this board gets -you would think any action would be welcome.
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Author: Katrina
Date: 2021-12-21 00:49
Regardless of whether we "should" dredge up old posts, I think it would be a good idea to avoid recommending things to the OP when responding to them. Oftentimes they are not here any more. Some have even passed away.
If you have new stuff to add to the info on the old post, great--but don't address the original poster!
Edit to add:
Additionally, one could also create a new post addressing the issue, and link to the old post in the message.
Post Edited (2021-12-21 00:50)
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Author: BethGraham
Date: 2021-12-21 01:17
I agree with you, Jen, but since the forum owner (Mark) responded upthread and said that he has no problem with people resurrecting really old threads, we all know now what this forum prefers.
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Author: Ed
Date: 2021-12-21 18:39
It is not as if we are talking technology where things changes so rapidly. Most discussions about the clarinet from older threads are valid today
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2021-12-21 22:34
Heavy sigh ... I don't set much direction. I'm not going to encourage or discourage such a nit on the bboard.
Post Edited (2021-12-21 22:37)
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Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date: 2021-12-21 23:13
It’s what you expect here, nowadays.
“I thought conductors gave the beat;
But now I think it rather neat
To look at all the tapping feet
And choose the one that I prefer,
And play along with him or her
I find it helps a lot.” (Heather Wastie)
Tony
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Author: BethGraham
Date: 2021-12-22 01:07
Heavy sigh right back atcha. I misunderstood your role. (Beth shrugs shoulders)
Happy playing, everyone. Perhaps now is time for this thread to peter out.
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