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 Yamaha Custom 853SE keywork
Author: shmuelyosef 
Date:   2021-12-19 07:44
Attachment:  Yamaha Custom with modded keywork.jpg (1144k)

Has anybody ever seen this articulated keywork on a Yamaha Custom (Bb clarinet)??

Just ran across this on eBay...I have an 853 SE Custom that I bought from Japan but mine does NOT have this mod...I'm wondering if it was factory or aftermarket. The eBay ad was not specific or helpful.

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 Re: Yamaha Custom 853SE keywork
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2021-12-19 23:42

What articulated keywork do you mean?

It's just your standard 17 keys with rollers fitted to the RH Ab/Eb and F/C keys and the LH E/B lever. Articulated keys are normally a closed key that's split into two parts where the heavier sprung touchpiece part holds closed a lighter and open sprung pad cup, just like the articulated G# key on oboes and saxes and the articulated C#/G# key fitted as an option on some otherwise regular clarinets and standard equipment on full Boehms.

I can only assume that's either an aftermarket keywork modification or maybe a very special order. The RH Eb/Bb and F/C touches look like those seen on German bore Boehm systems and reform Boehms. I don't think Yamaha fitted roller keys to their German Boehms.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Yamaha Custom 853SE keywork
Author: Hank Lehrer 
Date:   2021-12-20 02:10

Hi All,

Agreed with Chris P. that these are not articulated keys at all. My Selmer bass does have an articulated C#/G#; since I was originally a sax player, I use that key quite often.

In the case of the Yamaha CS shown, the location of the rollers lets the player avoid LH or RH exchanges on clarion B, C#, D# or similar passages. Sliding between B to C# on the LH or from C to D# on the RH (or the enharmonic notes) is not really the best technique. However, there is an occasional spot in some literature when it is the only option but B, C#, D# is customarily RLR pattern.

The short answer is to learn and then practice taking B/E on the RH. I still practice it particularly on bass since the RH and LH pinkies (and the thumb) have more keys to use.

HRL



Post Edited (2021-12-20 04:49)

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 Re: Yamaha Custom 853SE keywork
Author: JTJC 
Date:   2021-12-20 14:14

I’ve never use keys with rollers, but why no roller on LH C#? Only one-way sliding expected?

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 Re: Yamaha Custom 853SE keywork
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2021-12-20 18:45

Ideally it ought to have rollers on both the LH levers if you do happen to want to slide between them as is done on Albert/simple systems and German/Oehler systems, although with duplicated LH and RH pinky keys on Boehm systems, sliding between them can in most cases be avoided.

I sold a Selmer CT to someone who wanted the LH levers made flush with each other so they could slide across from one to the other. Normally they're both set at different heights so you don't accidentally catch the LH F#/C# lever when using the LH E/B lever which is easily done if either the E/B touch is too low or the F#/C# touch is too high. There's often too much travel in the LH levers on Boehm systems to make much benefit from having rollers fitted.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Yamaha Custom 853SE keywork
Author: JTJC 
Date:   2021-12-20 20:08

Thanks Chris, thought it might be height related, but interesting not done on this clarinet. Player must have known exactly what they wanted.

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