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Author: seabreeze
Date: 2021-10-05 08:26
Too bad this isn't in English. Is there an English version? The tester manages to play for comparison every clarinet in the shop including these: a Yamaha YCL-CSV Master, a Yamaha SEV Master, A Yamaha CSG III, a Buffet R13, a Buffet RC, a Selmer Presence, a Selmer Recital, a Buffet Tosca, a Buffet Legende, a Buffet Tradition, a Buffet Divine, and a Selmer Privilege clarinet.
What is he saying about each clarinet?
THE STARTING FAIR 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECDPOwFDobc.
and (the more expensive clarinets) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG8B0x-3iDQ.
Post Edited (2021-10-06 03:27)
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Author: ebonite
Date: 2021-10-05 14:14
Hi,
This is a summary of what he said about each one:
100,000 Yen - 200,000 Yen price range
Yama YCL 450
good has strap ring
nice sound for the price
Yamaha 650
Compared with 450 more depth and richness to sound
Buffet E11
Lighter to blow compared with the ones I've just played
Buffet E12F
This also has a strap ring.
Compared with E11, richer sound, consistent with price difference
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200,000 Yen - 300,000 Yen price range
Yamaha YCL 851 II CX
From bottom to top, even and easy to blow
Yamaha 852 II CS
Compared with the previous one, the sound is just a bit clearer
Yamaha 853 II SE
Compared with the last one, overall richer sound
Buffet E13
As expected, easy to blow. Compared with the yamahas, a brighter more cutting sound
Selmer prologue
Richer sound compared with the Buffet. Warm sound. And you can choose different coloured bell rings.
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300,000 Yen - 400,000 Yen price range
Yamaha WS 851
Very compact sound. Sense of speed in the sound (?!)
Yamaha YCL-852 IIV CS-V
Good balance. very clear sound
Yamaha YCL-853 IIV SE-V
Slightly richer sound than the last one
Buffet C-13
Like the Yamaha W5, very compact, and easy to control fast air
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400,000 Yen - 500,000 Yen
YCL CSV Master
Full, rich, flexible sound
YCL SEV Master
Very flexible, full sound
Buffet R13
Very contoured, clearly defined sound
Buffet RC
More gentle than the R13, but with a core to the sound
Selmer Presence
Very rich sound. I like it a lot. Sound has weight, but good balance of colours
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600,000 Yen = 800,000 Yen
Yamaha YCL CSG III
Very even sound. Low range mid range and high range well connected to each other
Buffet Tradition
Sound a bit brighter than the Yamaha, and easy to blow
Buffet Festival
Good balance of brightness and depth
Buffet Prestige
round and deep sound compared with festival
Selmer signature
Unique sound, which I like. Rich and round, but with a core
Selmer recital
Roundness stands out compared with signature
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Higher than 800,000 Yen
Buffet Tosca
Smooth breath control. legato expression is easy
Buffet legende
Has a bit more power than the last one
Buffet divine
Good balance and richness
Selmer privilege
Strong and lustrous sound. Highly rated.
Post Edited (2021-10-07 13:45)
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Author: FwLineberry
Date: 2021-10-05 21:33
If you turn on Closed Captions, then go to setting and select subtitles > auto translate > English, you can get a decent approximation of what is being said.
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Backun Beta, Lyrique Libertas, Lyrique 570C
Ridenour RAmt36, Vandoren 15RV Lyre mouthpieces
Rovner Dark and Rovner Versa ligatures
Legere reeds
Post Edited (2021-10-05 21:34)
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Author: m1964
Date: 2021-10-06 16:19
I think it is important to keep in mind that the payer compared specific instruments that he payed.
If I understand correctly, Yamahas are more or less consistent between different instruments but Buffets and Selmers may differ from one clarinet to another.
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Author: sdr
Date: 2021-10-07 02:15
Kinda useless. Reminds me of the old quote (of uncertain provenance but often attributed to Frank Zappa), “Writing about music is like dancing about architecture.”
-sdr
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Author: seabreeze
Date: 2021-10-07 03:19
Useless? For someone interested in quality clarinets on the market, how can it be useless to get to hear a demonstration of 28 excellent models? Most shops don't stock all those models, so you would never have a chance to compare them in one sitting like this. Just knowing that these instruments exist in their various price ranges is an education in itself. If the demonstrator just talked about 28 different clarinets without giving you a chance to hear them played, that would possibly be useless. Every one of these clarinets meets some player's need and ability to pay. There is not one piece of junk in the lot. And that is certainly useful knowledge.
Post Edited (2021-10-07 05:40)
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