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Author: Jimis4klar
Date: 2021-07-15 11:18
I've tried BD7 with V12 number 3 and feels a little heavy. Number 3 feels right on BD4 though. What other reeds would you recommend to try with BD7?? (for classical repertoire of course..)
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Author: Ed
Date: 2021-07-15 15:29
According to Vandoren's chart they suggest 2.5-3 in the traditional and 3-3.5 for the other cuts
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Author: Bob Barnhart ★2017
Date: 2021-07-15 19:29
I am playing both the BD4 and BD7 with essentially the same reeds, but they are Pilgerstorfer Dolce 3.5-4.0 not Vandoren.
I used to play a Vandoren B40 with Traditional 3.0 reeds and that worked great. Since then I switched to Pilgerstorfer Dolces and haven't looked back.
I think that these very open mouthpieces (1.20+) require a very thin tip. The Pilgerstorfer reeds (like the VD Traditionals) are thinner at the tip (0.09mm) than the V12/V21 (0.10mm), or the Rue le Pic (0.11mm). I tried a box of RLP 3.0 reeds on my BD7 and had the same experience that you did--all the reeds felt too heavy.
Given this experience, I would try Pilgerstorfer Dolce 3.5 or VD Traditional 2.5-3.0, or any similar reeds that have a thinner tip (e.g., Behn Aria 3.5?).
One word of warning: while the BD7 plays/sounds/tunes great in general, I have found it more difficult to play above high-G (G6) than the BD4/BD5. It performs best with balanced reeds that have a thin tip and have been broken in properly. With such reeds, it feels/plays like many closer-facing mouthpieces.
Bob Barnhart
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Author: Jimis4klar
Date: 2021-07-27 18:51
Thanks Bob and thank you all! Can you tell me, the VD traditional number 3 which number of Pilgerstorfer Dolces equals with? By the way, I actually find my BD7 tunes better than BD4, no matter the reed I put on.. By now I've tried v12, v21 number 3 and Vandoren juno 3.5. Between these I find v12 3 plays the best but I didn't try the traditional 3, will see
Post Edited (2021-07-27 19:01)
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Author: Bob Barnhart ★2017
Date: 2021-07-28 01:33
Jimis4klar,
It's been a while since I could directly compare a VD Traditional #3 with a Pilgerstorfer Dolce #3.5 but I think this would a good correlation. Some of the Dolce #4s might also be comparable in strength, but I think the 3.5s are a better fit for the BD7. Dolce #3s might also work, but I think they will feel too soft because of the BD7s long lay.
I think the VD Traditional 3s and Pilgerstorfer 3.5s are similar in strength, but the Dolces seem less restrictive, and more flexible/vibrant. It's more a matter of feel than anything, and for me I prefer the feel of the Dolces.
Bob
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Author: Jimis4klar
Date: 2021-07-29 13:02
Thanks a lot Bob! I appreciate It! Just now these days I try 2 new number 3 traditionals, I have some old ones from the days I was learning playing clarinet but I think I don't get clear impression of how actually respond on BD7, they're old.. will see how new ones will evolve.
Post Edited (2021-07-29 13:04)
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Author: kdk ★2017
Date: 2021-07-30 02:49
I would say VD Traditional #3 might correlate with a Dolce #3.5 or #4. You'd probably find some that work well at either strength.
Karl
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Author: Bob Barnhart ★2017
Date: 2021-07-30 09:16
Kdk is exactly right. I find that with a 3.5 and a 4.0 that feel similar in strength, the 3.5 feels more open/vibrant and the 4.0 more dense/focused.
I just got a box of V12 3.0s and they work fine for me on my BD7, but they feel “tighter” than my Dolce 3.5s, more like the feel of an equivalent 4.0. I still like the Dolces best.
Maybe I’ll try a box of Traditional 3.0s but I’ll need to grow my reed budget!
Bob
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Author: Jimis4klar
Date: 2021-07-30 09:22
Thanks! I really think v12 gives the most projection but I recommend you trying traditional number 3, don't buy a box, instead buy 2 reeds, you'll get a clear impression..
Post Edited (2021-07-30 09:24)
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Author: Robert N.
Date: 2021-07-30 20:12
I find the Dolce 3.5 to be similar to a Vandoren Rue Lepic 3.0.
I imagine that the Dolce 3.5 would be somewhere between a 2.5 and 3.0 Vandoren Traditional.
I do prefer the Dolce to the Rue Lepic, I find the Dolce plays a bit freer. Of course that comes down to personal preference.
Post Edited (2021-07-30 20:13)
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