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Author: clarinete09
Date: 2012-02-13 05:09
Hi Folks!
I will be playing the Debussy Rhapsodie in a few months, and we are trying to get the score and orchestral particellas. .
I just wonder, if Debussy died in 1918 . . is his music still copyrighted? or is the premiere Rhapsodie copyrighted?
I found the piano & clarinet part on IMSLP, but not the score and orchestral parts. .
Has anyone any idea where could I get them? Ideally to download but rent could be an option aswell..
Thank you!
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Author: Tom Kmiecik
Date: 2012-02-13 05:22
The parts are available online here: http://imslp.org/wiki/Premi%C3%A8re_rhapsodie_%28Debussy,_Claude%29#For_Clarinet_and_Orchestra_.28Composer.29
It is public domain in the United States, EU, and Canada, but I'm not sure about elsewhere. Hope this helps!
(Sorry about the edits- I kept trying to get the URL to be a link and I can't get it right. I'll just let you copy/paste it.)
Tom Kmiecik
Artist Relations, D'Addario Woodwinds
tkmiecik@daddario.com
Post Edited (2012-02-13 05:28)
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2012-02-13 05:27
A score and set of parts is also available on IMSLP. Look under the "Arrangements and Transcriptions" tab next to the clarinet and piano version. In this case, the original work was for clarinet and piano, subsequently arranged for orchestra by Debussy. BTW, as I recall, there are some errors in the clarinet part.
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: clarinete09
Date: 2012-02-13 05:34
Tom & Jack thanks alot!
This actually what I was looking for, for some reason I did not notice the orchestral parts and full score were available there!
Now, what is the best source the correct the errors in the clarinet edition? I am aware of the D sharp at the end of the piece. . any knows about some other mistakes in the part?
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2012-02-13 14:03
From my posting on Clarinet Day at Mannes, these are my notes from a lecture-demonstration by Charles Neidich:
The PR was published as a solo with piano for the Paris Conservatoire annual competition. However, Debussy's papers show that he intended the orchestral accompaniment from the beginning.
The PR was finished and engraved in a great rush, and Durand, the publisher, made many mistakes in the solo and piano parts. It's essential to consult the orchestral score, which Debussy checked very carefully. Neidich has a photocopy of Debussy's manuscript. The most audible (and controversial) change is the final flourish, where it's beyond doubt that the low note should be D#, not D. (Marcellus said the same thing in a master class several years ago.)
Debussy was meticulous with his markings. You must follow them exactly, for example starting and ending crescendos just where they're marked.
Debussy made a revolution in harmony. Prior to him, harmonic tension was produced by a sequence of chords (e.g., I-IV-V7-I). Debussy moved from standard to modal harmony. He produced harmonic tension and relaxation by making a "carpet" of tonality, moving away (to dissonance) and returning. In the PR, listen carefully to the piano part, where this happens constantly. You need to find these points and shape your phrases around them, "pressing" on the dissonance and relaxing back into the consonance, as you would with an appoggiatura or other non-harmonic note and its resolution.
Debussy also revolutionized phrase structure. His phrases build to the last note, and crescendo throughout. The next phrase pulls back and starts to build again. Listen to La Mer, where this happens constantly. Also, he uses the common device of stating a short phrase (say, two measures), repeating it (two more measures), and then starting with the same pattern but expanding it to twice the length (four measures). This happens in the second set of phrases in the PR, with the long group moving at half speed.
The pianist is the soloist at the opening of the PR. Be sure to let the pianist finish the opening phrase. In fact, your opening phrase is a pickup to the next piano phrase. Therefore, don't make a big crescendo. You play the basic motive and then hand the phrase back to the pianist.
It's essential to know what's happening in the piano part. The piano is an equal, and often more-than-equal, partner. The revolutionary harmonic and phrase structure are unfamiliar enough, even today, that you have to be hyper-aware of them and demonstrate them to the audience. Although the Mannes faculty member accompanist was excellent, the change when Neidich sat down at the piano was magical. He demonstrated the harmonic devices, singing the solo part and then having the student play with him. In particular, he showed where Debussy changed the harmony in repeated phrases, which requires the soloist to play differently.
For how to get the score and parts, see http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=180949&t=180534
Ken Shaw
Post Edited (2012-02-13 15:39)
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Author: clarinete09
Date: 2012-02-13 15:03
Thanks Ken! This is super interesting, I will take care of every detail about phrasing and producing tension on those spots of dissonance.
This a great article!
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Author: gsurosey
Date: 2012-02-13 23:26
So on the final run where the clarinet comes back in, the 3 notes in the triplet should be D3, E natural, and G? That's what the solo clarinet part on IMSLP says. I have the Southern Music Company (edited by Hite) edition. The notes in that are D natural, Eb, and G.
I thought it sounded different that the recording I have (no clue who it is, it's an mp3 I downloaded years ago).
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Rachel
Clarinet Stash:
Bb/A: Buffet R13
Eb: Bundy
Bass: Royal Global Max
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Author: gsurosey
Date: 2012-02-13 23:43
Here are other errors I've seen; please add more if I missed some and tell me which edition is correct:
m.6 - IMSLP part has Fb's in the midst of the 32nd note runs, Hite edition has F naturals.
m.72 (2 measures before "Un peu retenu") - IMSLP part has sharp over 2nd quarter D3 trill, Hite doesn't have the sharp.
Those are what I saw doing a quick read-through.
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Rachel
Clarinet Stash:
Bb/A: Buffet R13
Eb: Bundy
Bass: Royal Global Max
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Author: David Niethamer
Date: 2012-02-14 01:44
Dennis Nygren published an article (in two parts?) in "The Clarinet" regarding corrections for the Debussy Premier Rhapsodie. Woodwind.org has a brief excerpt here:
http://www.woodwind.org/clarinet/Study/Debussy.html
The article is excerpted from Nygren's Doctoral thesis, available from University Microfilms.
David
niethamer@aol.com
http://members.aol.com/dbnclar1/index.html
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Author: nellsonic
Date: 2021-06-07 04:08
Volume 12, Number 2, Winter 1985 is the issue of The Clarinet that has all the corrections. If you are a member of the International Clarinet Association you can access scans of all the back issues directly from the website.
Anders
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