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Author: ruben
Date: 2021-05-25 20:51
Debussy at one point stated that he didn't care for the clarinet. This distaste doesn't show in his wonderful Première Rhapsodie! Britten doesn't seem to have written much for the clarinet-no chamber music or concertos, but good orchestral parts. Are there other composers that had no particular liking for our instrument?
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2021-05-25 21:39
Actually Britten started a concerto for Goodman but it was never finished. One reason was that the manuscripts got impounded when returning to the UK after his stay in the US and When Britten eventually got them back he was working on other things. Supposedly he was going to finish it but never got round to it. The ‘fragment’ of the first movement is available. Colin Matthews has used that and created a full three movement work which is also available alongside the Britten original. Both worthy of investigation.
Peter Cigleris
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Author: ruben
Date: 2021-05-28 17:15
I hope you get round to recording this, Peter!
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Author: Liquorice
Date: 2021-05-29 22:40
Due to the lack of responses to this thread I think we can safely assume that there weren't any great composers that didn't like the clarinet. Makes perfect sense :-)
Legend has it that Dvorak hated a specific 2nd oboe player, which is why so many of his symphonic works have horribly quiet low second oboe parts.
Post Edited (2021-05-29 22:45)
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Author: graham
Date: 2021-05-29 22:58
Perusal score of the Britten (Matthews) is here: https://www.fabermusic.com/music/movements-for-a-clarinet-concerto-25/score
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Author: marcia
Date: 2021-05-30 21:08
>Legend has it that Dvorak hated a specific 2nd oboe player, which is why so >many of his symphonic works have horribly quiet low second oboe parts.
But in his 9th, he gave that gorgeous cor anglais solo to the second oboe. Maybe that person ended up in his good books?? ![[wink]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie3.gif)
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Author: rmk54
Date: 2021-05-30 21:38
But in his 9th, he gave that gorgeous cor anglais solo to the second oboe.
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Look at the score - it's in the first oboe part.
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Author: marcia
Date: 2021-05-30 23:10
Look at the score - it's in the first oboe part.
This is on IMSLP. It is in the second part.
https://imslp.simssa.ca/files/imglnks/usimg/4/4b/IMSLP41075-PMLP08710-Dvorak-Sym9.Oboe.pdf
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Author: rmk54
Date: 2021-05-30 23:36
This is on IMSLP. It is in the second part.
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In the Simrock edition, apparently.
In the Sourek critical edition, it is not.
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2021-05-31 00:45
Apparently the 2nd oboist was having an affair with Dvorak’s wife.
He also supposedly wrote a clarinet quintet which disappeared.
Peter Cigleris
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2021-05-31 05:09
Or maybe composers that hate the clarinet are "not so great."
:-)
......................Paul Aviles
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