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 1969 R13 vs. a Festival: Oh what to do?
Author: George Stalle 
Date:   2021-05-28 01:00

Somewhat wistfully I am considering selling my 1969 R13 (#108***). Still plays marvelously but the action seems soft and it's getting a little pitchy here and there. I'm considering trying out some Festivals soon and wanted to hear folks' opinion of this instrument, all in preparation for a recital I plan to present this November. Am anxious to try out old vs. new and see what happens! And while I'm here, any update for the price my old R13 could fetch in today's eBay or BBoard market? Thanks for your thoughts.

George Stalle

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 Re: 1969 R13 vs. a Festival: Oh what to do?
Author: Katrina 
Date:   2021-05-28 18:52

My R13 that I've had and used since 1983 is from 1969--I love it and can't play on others as well. ;) That's probably just because I've had it for so long...

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 Re: 1969 R13 vs. a Festival: Oh what to do?
Author: MarkS 
Date:   2021-05-28 19:28

I replaced my R13 from 1966, for which I was the original owner, with a Festival about three years ago. The R13 was in good condition given its age. Since I sold it to an undergraduate clarinet major whom I knew, I did not try to maximize the sale price ($1000). I bought the new clarinet from Lohff and Pfeiffer, and they had already given it their usual setup.

The R13 was from the so-called Golden Age for Buffets, but I am just as happy with the tone of the Festival. The old clarinet was considerably less resistant, probably due to changes in the bore that occurred over the years. However, it did not take very long to adjust to the increased resistance. I also enjoy having the alternate Ab/Eb key. The intonation of the Festival is quite good, with the exception of clarion D, which tends sharp. I discussed this with an expert, who also plays a Festival, and he told me it is a common issue for this model.

--Mark

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 Re: 1969 R13 vs. a Festival: Oh what to do?
Author: Max S-D 
Date:   2021-05-29 02:08

Have you considered getting your R13 overhauled by a good technician? Key action and small intonation adjustments are definitely things that a good tech can help with and it would be a shame to let an instrument go over things that can be relatively easily repaired (by a qualified person, of course).

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 Re: 1969 R13 vs. a Festival: Oh what to do?
Author: Ed 
Date:   2021-05-29 16:30

I have not played the festival, so I cannot offer any input. I would second the idea of having a good tech bring it up to par. Sometimes a new barrel can help bring the feel and pitch in.

If you decide to get a new horn, have fun with the search.

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 Re: 1969 R13 vs. a Festival: Oh what to do?
Author: m1964 
Date:   2021-05-29 19:41

George Stalle wrote:

"Somewhat wistfully I am considering selling my 1969 R13 (#108***). Still plays marvelously but the action seems soft and it's getting a little pitchy here and there. I'm considering trying out some Festivals soon and wanted to hear folks' opinion of this instrument, all in preparation for a recital I plan to present this November. Am anxious to try out old vs. new and see what happens! And while I'm here, any update for the price my old R13 could fetch in today's eBay or BBoard market? Thanks for your thoughts."

Have you considered trading in your R1#? It would be much easier than selling on eBay that will take at about 15% of your selling price. So if you sold yours for 1K, you'd get about $850 after all the fees.

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 Re: 1969 R13 vs. a Festival: Oh what to do?
Author: Ed 
Date:   2021-05-29 19:51

Of course selling it here on this site you would not deal with the middle man fees from ebay

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 Re: 1969 R13 vs. a Festival: Oh what to do?
Author: George Stalle 
Date:   2021-06-02 17:06

I went over to Alcides Rodriguez's shop in Atlanta (he's plays bass in the ASO) and he let me try out 3 Festivals, with the upgraded setup that he does. I was impressed with the Festivals. The Festivals had a slightly stronger "center" or "core" to their sound, however I still like the openness of my '69 R13. (The old instrument bore changes?) So I've decided to have Alcides do an overhaul on it this summer. I think the slight corrections to some of the pad heights will help the pitchiness that is occurring here and there, plus his improving the spring tensions (currently a little soft), will help, too. Plus a good cleaning and oiling! And perhaps I'll invest in a new Pyne mouthpiece, tooled to match my current old one, as a bonus to myself! BTW, Alcides is offering 18-month interest free financing on Buffet purchases, which started a few days ago. Thanks all for your comments.

George Stalle

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 Re: 1969 R13 vs. a Festival: Oh what to do?
Author: RefacerMan 
Date:   2021-06-03 17:41

You may want to get a new barrel for your vintage R13 also. A nice new Moenig barrel may help with the center and the pitch.

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 Re: 1969 R13 vs. a Festival: Oh what to do?
Author: George Stalle 
Date:   2021-06-07 18:35

I purchased a Guy Chadash barrel about 10-12 years ago and am really happy with it. The original barrel was a little blown out and tending to play flat! Thanks.

George Stalle

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