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 Old Bb clarinet
Author: tslchloe 
Date:   2021-05-25 08:51
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Hello all, recently I've got given a Bb clarinet. I'm pretty sure it's wood. I have never seen this brand before, and it looks and feels like it's a pretty old clarinet. I have attached a few pictures.

I would like know if it is worth sending it to a technician to get it overhauled- is it worth keeping as a spare clarinet? I have already a professional model clarinet that I use daily.

I've heard people say that old clarinets can have a really good bore and hence can have a really good sound- is this generally true? and if it hasn't been properly maintained over the years, does it affect the wood?

Thank you!

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 Re: Old Bb clarinet
Author: ebonite 
Date:   2021-05-25 12:30

Hi,

There is some information about Hans Kreul clarinets in this thread:

http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=471869&t=471854



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 Re: Old Bb clarinet
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2021-05-25 15:05

That does look like it was made by Schreiber and with the solid nickel silver bell ring, it's more like the older Schreiber-built Buffet E12 than an E11.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Old Bb clarinet
Author: Luuk 2017
Date:   2021-05-26 13:34

The firm Joachim Kreul appears to be alive and kicking: https://www.kreul.de/.
On the page 'Firmengeschichte' you can read the following (Google translation from German):
[...]
Since the company was founded in 1919 in Pflegehofstrasse, the Musikhaus Kreul in Tübingen has stood on the two pillars of instrument making on the one hand and instrument trading on the other. While grandfather Hans became known as a violin maker and bow maker, woodwind instruments came to Tübingen for the first time with father Hans Kreul.

Clarinets, oboes, transverse flutes, English horns - everything belonging to the genre of woodwind instruments was produced under the brand name Kreul after World War II, from 1956 in Schwärzlochstrasse.

Joachim Kreul also grew up with woodwind instruments from scratch until his death. From the Tübingen province, Joachim Kreul played a key role in the world history of woodwind instrument making. At the age of 23, he passed the master craftsman examination in his father's company, and for years he was the youngest master of his profession in Germany. In his second profession, a trained businessman, Joachim Kreul took over the management of the family business as a representative of the third generation in 1980 - when he was 27.

Joachim Kreul completed the transformation from a 40-employee Tübingen music house to a world-class company in two stages: in 1986 he bought the world market leader in oboe construction, Strasser-Marigaux in Paris. In 1991, after the fall of the Berlin Wall, the then 38-year-old joined a holding company and took over the Uebel company, one of the leading companies for woodwind instruments in East Germany. The number of employees grew to 140.
[...]

It does not say that clarinets were built by the company itself, although this is implied.

Regards,

Luuk
Philips Symphonic Band
The Netherlands

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 Re: Old Bb clarinet
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2021-05-26 15:00

That was then and a lot of things have changed, but they have long ceased in producing their own instruments. The clarinets I have seen were identical to Schreiber clarinets except for the shorter barrel and some socket rings.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Old Bb clarinet
Author: tslchloe 
Date:   2021-05-28 07:42

Thank you for all your replies!

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