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 Re: Does Mozart require ornamenting?
Author: Liquorice 
Date:   2020-12-08 01:38

As others have stated, Mozart would have expected some ornamentation by soloists, for example in solo concertos or vocal arias. There are some written out versions with added ornamentation which Mozart did of his own arias, which were probably made to provide guidelines for some specific singers. And Mozart's student Barbara Ployer even wrote out some embellishments for the Clarinet Concerto. I think these provide excellent insights into the kind of embellishment which Mozart would have found appropriate. In the examples that I have looked at, the amount of ornamentation would be considered by many today to be "excessive", but of course I can't help but marvel at the elegance and imagination in Mozart's own ornamentations, which are obviously far better than anything I could ever come up with myself.

There are also contemporary reviews of concerts where singers were criticised for their poor (and sometimes harmonically inappropriate) ornamentation. So even back then there existed bad musicians who didn't know how to ornament.

Ruben: can you tell us who the clarinetist was that you heard on the radio? It might be interesting to discuss specific ornaments that he/she did and why we do/don't like them.
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