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Author: CMCanavessi
Date: 2020-09-05 06:30
Looks like there's a new model in Buffet's lineup, the Gala. It's listed in the "Tradition" family just below the Tradition 2 and the Legende. I've heard a Buffet representative say it's somewhat on the level of an R13, quality wise, with the bore of the Tradition/Legende.
Has anyone seen one? Or heard/played one? Any info would be appreciated.
Link: https://www.buffet-crampon.com/en/instruments/clarinets/gala/
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Author: Ed
Date: 2020-09-05 16:41
Wow. It almost seems that there you reach a point where it is overkill. Who knows, maybe there is a market for all of them. If nothing else, it would probably be hard for businesses to keep a range of stock.
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Author: CMCanavessi
Date: 2020-09-05 17:17
Attachment: Buffet.PNG (351k)
From the webcast we had with Buffet yesterday, I count 11 pro clarinets. Here's a screenshot.
Still, it depends on how you count. If you add the Basset it's certainly 12. Besides, on the Buffet website the "Conservatorie" is listed as "Professional" so who knows... :D
Post Edited (2020-09-05 17:20)
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2020-09-05 22:34
Seems the C12 has been upgraded.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2020-09-05 23:35
You gotta give it to them to continue making clarinets until they get it right 🤣🤣
Peter Cigleris
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Author: Kalashnikirby
Date: 2020-09-06 02:06
Well, the Tradition 2nd gen turned more luxurious because they added a low F correction key.
So they needed to make an „affordable“ Tradition-bore instrument.
Since Buffets production is so standardized, they could make them in 10 different colours if they wanted... and the customer is always impressed if a manufacturer has something „new“
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Author: Hurstfarm
Date: 2020-09-07 16:49
So now we know why the Tradition was repositioned to be like a Legende without the gold plating: to make room for the Tradition 1 to be reincarnated with dark nickel rings and a new “medallion”. It’s all in the marketing!
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Author: gatto
Date: 2020-09-07 18:47
On the website, the specs say "poly cylindrical bore", but the text above suggests that the bore is "cylindrical" in a similar fashion as for the Legende and Tradition. Right?
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Author: Hurstfarm
Date: 2020-09-07 22:17
Good spot! The blurb suggests a similar bore to the Tradition and Legende, but the tech specs suggest not. The plot thickens!
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2020-09-08 01:40
More like flooding the market.
And I bet you anything they're still as poorly finished as a Prodige.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: m1964
Date: 2020-09-12 06:40
Kalashnikirby wrote:
> Well, I tested Prodiges that were set up BETTER than wooden
> Buffets
Unlike wooden hand-made Buffets, those Prodigies were assembled by robots in China😁
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2020-09-12 17:02
Sounds like overkill to me. I like the good old days when I would take a student to Vinces in Delaware, try 20 R13s, pick the best 3 and have my student pick the one they liked the best. 11 or 12 models now, OMG.
ESP eddiesclarinet.com
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Author: dorjepismo ★2017
Date: 2020-09-13 05:45
Sort of fun that the Gala page refers to the Tradition and Legende as giving rise to a new family of bores, characterized by sobriety and elegance. Perfect for the Covid Age, since the families of partiers are disfavored. The many models possibly encourage people to buy new horns they might not need, but choice is still a good thing. I also remember when the effective choice was between different R13s, save for the outliers who went for Selmers or Leblancs, and wouldn't go back to those days for anything.
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2020-09-13 16:49
Doriepismo, I agree that choice is good. As a professional every time Buffet came out with different models I was anxious to try them. More than once they would send reps to orchestra's around the country for us in the clarinet section to try. I feel in love with one new model years ago, can't remember the name now, and I tried to purchase it from the company after it made its rounds but they said it went into inventory. After trying about a dozen I was able to locate I finally purchased a Selmer Privledge to replace my then 40 year old R 13Bb. Still continued to use my R 13A for the remainder of my 51 year career. Go figure.
ESP eddiesclarinet.com
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Author: marcia
Date: 2020-09-13 21:14
I have observed that some models pictured on the web page have an additional RH pinky key and an additional tone hole at the bottom of the lower joint. I presume the two are relate, but what is their purpose?
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Author: Hurstfarm
Date: 2020-09-13 22:38
Yes, the extra key is a “low F correction key” - an alternative fingering to correct the pitch on what is often a slightly flat note.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2020-09-14 00:01
I never understood why Buffets have the low F correction tonehole placed below the F/C tonehole when it would be better positioned above it as you'd see on Oehler systems.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: marcia
Date: 2020-09-14 00:49
>Yes, the extra key is a “low F correction key” - an alternative fingering to correct >the pitch on what is often a slightly flat note.
Thank you. It looks like a bit of a stretch. I wonder how many people could actually reach it easily?
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2020-09-14 14:01
I know some players who have overreached and hit that key by mistake when playing F/C, then hit the F/C key instead of the Ab/Eb key when they should've been playing F-G-Ab or upper C-D-Eb.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2020-09-14 16:45
Well when all's said and done if I wasn't retired and had a source reasonable close to me, driving distance, that stocked all these models I'd be curious to try them all. The only reason I switched to a Selmer Bb years ago was because the shop I was at picking out a Buffet for a student had a half dozen of several different Selmer models and I was curious to try them and fell in love with one. I was never looking for a Selmer even though I've always played a Selmer Bass but there they were to try.
ESP eddiesclarinet.com
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Author: Djudy
Date: 2020-09-17 14:46
Ed says : "and fell in love with one."
Ain't it the truth ! j'adore
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2020-09-17 17:24
Djudy while on the subject of "falling in love with it" I'll add to the story. I asked Vince, the owner of the store, how much the Selmer is and when he told me I said I'll take it, set it up for me and I'll pick it up next week. He said, "don't you have to call your wife first for permission", by the way I love my wife too. I said why do I have to do that, he replied, all the men do that. I answered no, it's for my profession and she knows I've been looking for a new clarinet for years, I don't need her permission. He laughed and I smiled. I sitll love that Selmer, and my wife. :-)
ESP eddiesclarinet.com
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Author: gatto
Date: 2020-09-17 17:35
Ed Palanker wrote:
>I sitll love that Selmer, and my wife. :-)
And does your wife still love you? (Despite the Selmer.) ;-)
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2020-09-18 16:57
Hey gatto, you have to ask her, she still lives with me. :-) PS. I made a darn good living with that new Selmer, Buffet Bb for my first 40 years, Buffet A all my career and Selmer Bass all my career so the answer is "probably". Yea, Buffet Eb too but I gave that to a student when I retired.
ESP eddiesclarinet.com
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