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 Re: Piano introduction to Brahms F-minor Sonata
Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date:   2020-06-16 17:38

>> How do you explain that pianists tend to play it like a recitativo? And protest when you ask them to play the first four bars in tempo? >>

They sometimes say they feel that the 'appassionato' indication justifies it, and even requires it. My own feeling is that it's possible to overdo such rubato.

>> When Brahms wants something, he usually indicates it. >>

How can we possibly judge such a general statement? We have no independent criterion.

Much of the material of the sonata can be 'excavated' from the opening, with suitable latitude of interpretation. (Rising leap plus stepwise descent would be such a plausible loosening – or just, stepwise descent.) Playing the opening with some degree of modulation fits well with that realisation.

I found it amusing to have the piano line in bars 7 and 6 from the end of the last movement pointed out to me for the first time just a few years ago...

Tony
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