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Re: Selmer 9 Pad Cup Sizes

Author: Bob Bernardo
Date: 2020-06-16 00:23

3mm is kinda standard on Buffet's and older Selmer's. Not too sure about the new Selmer's. these also come in at 3.3 to as low as 1.9mm's. That's way too thin, I think standard pads are from around 2.8 to 3.3mm's.

I did get in a recent Selmer for repair. Looks like the upper registers are mostly 9.5, I'll use cork pads for the upper register and the lower register has 2 pads at 12 1/2mm's, 1 pad is 15mm's and the other 3 keys are at 16mm's.

The Yamaha CSVR horns are also the exact same as with most Buffet R13's. I played on these R13's and the Yamaha's, repaired both models a fair amount.

JL Smith sells the Black pads which are available at 2.9mm's thick. I think these are still Greenback pads but black in color. .10mm's is close enough to the 3.0mm's. I'm not sure if these black pads are the same as what you find on some of the Backun pads and his horns? I haven't repaired any Buckuns. The cost in the US starts around $1.21 for these black pads. The more expensive pads Master pads start at $2 per pad. Greenbacks are also at $1.21.

I know some people don't seem to like the Valentino Greenback's. If it's the feel of the pad, meaning too soft or too hard, they don't seal very well, or they don't last, maybe the sound quality? I actually like them so far, been using these for several years. If you heat the cup too much or too hot I have had a few pads come apart. But with the usual practicing at doing your own repairs just throw out the pad if it warps or breaks apart! Pads are surely inexpensive, so if you can't get the pad to seal within maybe 5 minutes of messing around, I'd personally throw it out and put on a new one. By the way I dislike bladder pads, although they've gotten much better my average is changing the pad 3 to 5 times before I find the right bladder pad which works.

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Post Edited (2020-06-16 07:01)

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