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Author: Wallack202
Date: 2020-02-27 03:34
Hello,
I am currently looking at transferring schools to study clarinet performance. Some of my top choices right now are Colburn, USC, Curtis, and Oberlin. I was just in PA and was around temple. I was wondering how studying clarinet at temple was and if it was worth while to go to school there?
Thanks,
KRW
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2020-02-27 06:32
If you can get into any of the first four schools, don’t bother with Temple.
You mention transferring? Where are you now and what year are you?
James
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Author: Bob Bernardo
Date: 2020-02-27 06:35
Yehuda Gilad and David Howard are at USC, Ricardo Morales is at Temple in Philly, Anthony McGill is at Curtis of course, Richard Hawkins is at Oberlin. Richard might be the most strict out of all of these school instructors. There is also Howard Klug which you didn't mention at Indiana. One of his students was Julian Bliss I think. Many more of course found their ways into very good symphonies. I don't know the person at Colburn, I'm sure this professor is excellent. I've heard a few students from there.
Needless to say Ricardo is a wonderful caring guy plus one heck of an elite player, so Temple is a very good call. The music school is also very good and has been around forever it seems. It probably won't be an easy audition, since so many people want to study with Ricardo.
Best of luck, needless to say practice as much as you can, 6 hours a day to get a few steps ahead of your competition which probably average 4 hours a day.
There are a few players on the board here that know more about the schools in Philly than I do. It might be smart to also audition at Yale. We all know how great David Shifrin is. He's also a true caring gentleman and will work hard at getting the most out of your talents.
Maybe you might want to post your progress here as you prepare for your auditions and some people may have great advice for you.
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Post Edited (2020-02-27 06:40)
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2020-02-27 06:51
Bob — Gilad is at Colburn.
I have a former student (HS) leaving Gilad to start at Northwestern for his undergraduate, and they appreciated Gilad’s knowledge and the clear level of expectations. I have another at Oberlin who loves it and thinks Hawkins is wonderful.
Klug did teach Julian early on and Julian also studied extensively with Sabine Meyer (before and after Klug I think?). And the students I’ve had audition IU have all been offered scholarship.
But if you can make it into USC, Colburn, Oberlin, or Curtis (with a full ride, IF there’s a spot open)...the only reason to go to Temple is Morales, right?
James
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Post Edited (2020-02-27 06:58)
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Author: nellsonic
Date: 2020-02-27 07:28
Colburn is like Curtis. Very selective and a full ride is given to every student. That's part of why it attracts top talent to audition from around the world. They don't even have clarinet openings every year - only when someone graduates. It's also right across the street from Disney Hall in downtown LA which gives one wonderful access to a constant stream of world class concerts in a world class hall.
Anders
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Author: Bob Bernardo
Date: 2020-02-27 08:09
Guess that's why the students I heard were so good! Thanks for the info on Colburn. The school has a lot of security around. Hard to get into without a pass. It's right smack downtown Los Angeles. So he also teaches at USC too! Very cool! I don't know if Michele Zukovsky still teaches at USC? I've kinda lost contact with her. Guess I need to send an email to her. What talent she has. Started with the LA Philharmonic at 17 or something? Forgot.
I know Richard, a very nice guy. He was a student of Fred Ormand. Very talented. I met him at Rico when I was there and after we had a BBQ at my place. Along with the Academy of the West students. This is a gifted school in the summer. Located in Santa Barbara, CA.
Thanks for helping out on this post. YES I have talked to Bliss as well. He also studied with Eddie Palanker I think? Unlike Sabine, who plays on a light setup Julian is playing on wicked hard reeds and around a 1.15 tip opening. He didn't get that from Sabine Meyer! Who are we who rate that setup! It works very well for him.
Designer of - Vintage 1940 Cicero Mouthpieces and the La Vecchia mouthpieces
Yamaha Artist 2015
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Author: Wallack202
Date: 2020-02-27 08:50
I currently go to a smaller school by the name of Crane, I decided to study here with Dr. Raphael Sanders and his experience in the major symphonies he has played in while being able to develop my aural skills training at a slower rate as I struggled in that regard. Many of my colleagues have asked why I didn't attend Juliard right off the bat but I didn't feel ready at the time. I am currently a 2nd year and am looking to transfer due to unfortunate circumstances forcing Dr. Sanders to retire.
KRW
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Author: Wallack202
Date: 2020-02-27 08:51
Also thanks for all of the great information, I am going to Oberlin tomorrow to have my Oberlin audition and was wondering if I should wait to get into a different school should I be accepted.
KRW
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2020-02-27 16:50
Hi KRW — good luck with your auditions!
IMHO: you should wait until you hear from each school and then make a decision. Although schools love to hear from you early, there’s no advantage to you to decide prematurely and before you have all the acceptances (and any scholarship offers).
Bob — Julian was here (Charlotteville and Richmond, Va) on a promo tour and I had two chances to visit with him — very nice guy. One of my students performed in a masterclass for him and he had many useful items to contribute.
He does play strength 5 reeds and he doesn’t prepare them at all. And he made it sound like he plays a rotation, but that once he’s found a reed for a project/concert series that he plays just that reed for the duration of that project. He did mention that Sabine was always trying to get him to lighten up, and his appreciation and respect for her was plain whenever he mentioned her.
Again — good luck KRW!
James
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Post Edited (2020-02-27 17:14)
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Author: seabreeze
Date: 2020-02-27 18:32
There are many more places to study clarinet with experienced players. At Shepherd School of Music, Rice University, Houston, Texas, for instance. In that clarinet studio Richie Hawley, Mike Webster, and Thomas LeGrand teach. At Cal State Fullerton, Hakan Rosengren is professor. Listen to his recordings of the Nielsen Concerto, the Crusell Concertos, and the Messiaen Quartet for the End of Time. All outstanding, and he has played with leading orchestras throughout the world. His students give him top ratings.
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Author: Bob Bernardo
Date: 2020-02-27 18:50
You asked a very good question, regarding if you get into Oberlin should you continue taking auditions. I think you should. Also if possible, maybe take a lesson with the teachers you are most interested in. Sometimes the student teacher relationship can be very powerful and lead to great things in your life. If there is a conflict of interest or your personalities don't seem to match completely this is needless to say a waste of time and study. That's why I brought up the other actual names of instructors. So do what you can try to make sure you and the instructor are a match. This relationship is often for a lifetime, not for a few years during school! I do think Richard might be a really good fit for you. I'm glad you are auditioning at Oberlin and feel free to tell Richard to stop by for another BBQ at my place! Maybe he remembers! Best of luck to you. Cheers!
Designer of - Vintage 1940 Cicero Mouthpieces and the La Vecchia mouthpieces
Yamaha Artist 2015
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Author: Bob Bernardo
Date: 2020-02-27 23:32
Anytime! Text me if you have any questions. By the way, David Shifrin, Richard Hawkins, and myself are students of Fred Ormand, so you might be getting that special teaching technique or schooling, for the lack of words, which can make you into that great player you are pushing for. Fred's students sit in major orchestras all over the world. Lee Morgan has been in Denmark and is on par to Shifrin and Hawkins skill levels! Lee was fun at Interlochen! Both won the Young Artist Competition at that school. Yes we are still all in contact with Fred Ormand. This has been since my Interlochen years in the 9th grade, 1971. Shifrin had left though, he was at Curtis. Again, why I thought about Shifrin since he went to the same school you want to attend. I remain friends with Fred and some of his students, such as Shifrin and a few others. If I lived near Richard I'm sure we'd be good friends.
I think all of us took some lessons from Marcellus. There is this sound connection we all wanted. To sound like Marcellus, Harold Wright, and Maybe the best sound of all, Iggie Gennusa.
Let me know or this board know how your audition goes and what your plans will be.
Designer of - Vintage 1940 Cicero Mouthpieces and the La Vecchia mouthpieces
Yamaha Artist 2015
Post Edited (2020-02-27 23:37)
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