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Author: joevacc
Date: 2001-06-26 17:06
I am planing on refitting my Bb and A clarinets with adjustable thumb rests. I would like to hear from those of you who have them.
What do you think about brand - quality?
What are your preferences?
Thanks in advance...
-=[Joe Vacc]=-
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Author: Sylvain
Date: 2001-06-26 17:27
I recently aquired a used Ton Kooiman maestro thumbrest from one of our BB posters.
It's a marvel.
It's expensive, a model comes around 150USD from intl music suppliers but is worth it. I've heard that you could pay as much as 100 for an adjustable thumbrest from buffet which is a rip off IMHO.
The TK Maestro is adjustable in any imaginable direction. It relieves the wrist/thumb from a lot of stress and allows fro more control over your right hand's fingers.
The thumrest clips on a plate that you fixed on your horn. This allows to have on thumbrest for both horns. You put the plates and switch thumbrest when you switch instrument.
It might not always work if you have to do those infamous "instantaneous" changes.
Anyways, many many playes use the TK thumbrest, I have not heard anything bad about it yet.
check
http://www.tonkooiman.com/ for the full description.
All the best,
-Sylvain
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Author: Joseph O'Kelly
Date: 2001-06-26 17:50
I have the Buffet adjustable thumb rest on my Festival Bb and R-13 A. They are OK, not great. They adjust to make the thumb rest higher and lower but that's about it. It is about as basic thumbrest as can get. It has only about three settings. Are these the thumbrest that are $100? What a rip off!
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Author: Sue B
Date: 2001-06-26 19:34
I found the Etude thumbrest online for about $25.00 delivered.
I don't think thats too unreasonable given how bad my thumb has been feeling.
Thanks to all you. I have high hopes for this helping me!!!
__Sue
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Author: clarinet713
Date: 2001-06-26 21:28
Sue-just curious, but where did you find this thumbrest online for $25? That's a deal!
Thanks
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Author: Matt
Date: 2001-06-27 03:08
I'd like to know where you found the Etude also. Please respond to this BB.
Thanks,
Matt
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Author: Sue B
Date: 2001-06-27 03:14
This is the link you requested. I do not own or make any money off of this just passing along the information. It does look like the part the is nearest the clarinet is plastic and I think some of the other ones I saw might have been wood but the configuration looked the same to me.
<a http://stores.yahoo.com/prowinds/mainit2.html </a>
Enjoy!!
Sue
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Author: Sue B
Date: 2001-06-27 03:15
Gee let's try that one again shall we...
<a href=http://stores.yahoo.com/prowinds/mainit2.html>Ton Kooiman Etude</a>
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Author: clarinet713
Date: 2001-06-27 13:36
Is that the student model or professional?
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Author: Sylvain
Date: 2001-06-27 14:27
This is the student model. You can only move it up or down.
Check the link http://www.tonkooiman.com/ I gave a few posts up to see the difference between models "Maestro" ($150) and "Etude" ($25).
I have never tried the "Etude", maybe somebody on this board has and would like to give us some input.
-S
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2001-06-27 17:59
iIt may be worth looking at where you actually WANT your thumb rest. some makes seem to provide the opion of the 'normal' or much worse positions. This is also related to where the rest is to be screwed on - the screws shouldn't be very close to the tenon socket and they must not go INTO the tenon socket. Ideally the top part of the rest should not go so high as to risk crashing into other keys when the instrument is assembled. So all these things (and price) considered you may as well just get the current rest put where you want it.
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Author: joevacc
Date: 2001-06-28 02:40
Thanks for the tip Gordon, but I am worried that they may not end up in the perfect position. That could be a lot of extra holes in my two best clarinets.
Do you or any of the other techs. out there have a "rule of thumb" or some good old experienced common sense to keep me in line?
Thanks all - for the advice so far,
Best,
-=[Joe Vacc]=-
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2001-06-28 14:23
Unscrew it, turn it around (which puts it quite a lot higher, and probably higher than an adjustable one will go)) and then exp[eriment by adding plasters or plastic/rubber tubes, foam, etc until yhou have found your favoured position. Then get it moved to that position the right way up by a technician.
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Author: mw
Date: 2001-06-28 18:39
Joe, technicians like Jbutler & others have proven that any small holes or imperfections can easily be remedied, as desired. Ferree's sells Grenadilla Dust, or if you have your own "junk pile" you can grind your own blend! Done well, you'll have a hard time finding the old holes!
Best,
mw
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Author: joevacc
Date: 2001-06-28 22:50
Thank you guys! Great idea Gordon!!! Why didn't I think of that?
mw, Yes, I have a bag of Grenadilla dust of my own. You should see the very deep engravings that J. Butler erased from my alto. Well you can't see them now! ;~)
Thanks again,
-=[Joe Vacc]=-
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Author: Sue B
Date: 2001-06-30 01:53
The thumbrest came the Etude that is. It is as I suspected all plastic.
I popped it on and it definitely does help. I think I may need to have it professionally installed. The screws they sent were a tiny bit shorter than the thumbrest screws that were on the R-13 and one of them didn't seem to want to catch quite right. So I used the original screw for that hole and it seems to be hanging in there for now.
Pretty adjustable though and it does take the weight off the thumb quite a bit.
It definitely does not look to be of the quality of the Maestro but for $25.00 instead of $150.00 I think I might be fine with it.
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