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Author: TheClarinetKid
Date: 2019-10-27 20:24
Been given the task to play the Artie Shaw Clarinet Concerto, everything is just matter of practice but the last segment of the piece is just 'WOAH'! I am having real trouble playing the 'octave' part at the end of the concerto. Any tips/tricks
with playing notes on that octave register? I need to be ready for a concert by the end of November, so wish me luck!
If you don't get me, its the 7:00 part of this youtube clip below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkXz1zA4jGE
EDIT: I am attaching the sheet music section.
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Buffet Crampon E11 Clarinet (French Buffet)
Buffet Crampon 'Vintage' R13 Clarinet
Post Edited (2019-10-27 20:26)
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2019-10-27 20:44
You over blow the third space 'C' so that it sounds the fourth ledger 'G' above. Then simply gliss to the fingering for fifth line 'F' that is now triple 'C.'
may take some work
....................Paul Aviles
P.S. Also, a classical clarinet player asked Artie how he did the high C (same one as above) every night at the end of his set that is in his theme song, Nightmare. Artie said, "Put your right hand on the table, now lift your index finger. If it weren't that easy, I wouldn't even try!"
Of course Artie had some chops!
Post Edited (2019-10-27 20:48)
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Author: Ken Lagace
Date: 2019-10-27 20:48
Is the problem you don't know the fingerings? Or the notes don't come out?
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Author: TheClarinetKid
Date: 2019-10-28 10:11
I worked out the fingering and I can play some them individually like a scale but not the passage itself. 'Notes don't come out', that would be the correct phrase.
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Buffet Crampon E11 Clarinet (French Buffet)
Buffet Crampon 'Vintage' R13 Clarinet
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Author: Ken Lagace
Date: 2019-10-28 16:21
It doesn't make sense. If they come out in a chromatic scale, they are on the clarinet/reed/mouthpiece/embouchure/air/voicing combination and setup. If they don't come out from a skip up to them, you are changing something that is preventing them to speak and you have to discover what is changing. It may be that you play the upper notes properly but not the lower notes. Good players don't change much to play those altissimo notes because the lower notes are already being played properly.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2019-10-28 19:37
Oops........sorry, I play mostly by feel and have not done this gliss in awhile. It is actually from the fingered third space "C#" to the fingered fifth line "F#." It doesn't make sense if you think about it but it works. The trick is getting learning how it feels to get the fourth ledger "G" to speak on the much lower "C#" fingering. The rest is pretty simple.
................Paul Aviles
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Author: TheClarinetKid
Date: 2019-10-28 19:38
I feel like that I have to bite down a lot and create a large amount of pressure on the reed to make those notes play...
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Buffet Crampon E11 Clarinet (French Buffet)
Buffet Crampon 'Vintage' R13 Clarinet
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Author: seabreeze
Date: 2019-10-28 21:14
In the Clarinet Concerto by Finnish composer Kalevi Aho, page 5 (1st ed.), rehearsal letter D1, there is a similar long glissado up to high C, but this one starts on written A above the staff, one whole tone above the gliss in the Shaw piece. I wonder if this is an allusion to Shaw inserted by Frost (who participated in the composition process). In any case, if you can play one of these you can probably easily play the other.
Some change mouthpieces when they play glisses like these. Personal experimentation with fingerings (and possibly mouthpieces and facings more responsive to pitch-sliding) is necessary rather than relying on dogma or rules of thumb. Fingerings and facings that work for one player may flop for another.
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