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Author: ClarinettyBetty
Date: 2019-08-12 18:18
How are the slightly older Patricola CL7 C clarinets? I've seen some friends use the brand new ones with the full gold-plated seal. The one I'm looking at just has an outline of the seal in the wood. I've heard raves about the super-new ones, but I can't afford one right now.
Thoughts on the CL7? And it's in C, not the Bb or A.
Thanks!
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Eb: 1972 Buffet BC20
Bb: Selmer Paris Presence
A: Selmer Paris Presence
Bass: 1977 LeBlanc
https://gentrywoodwinds.com
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2019-08-12 21:21
My thoughts are that Patricola is on track right now with their design. I know $4200 US dollars may be too much of an investment for some, but why would someone want a horn just because it is the same brand but not the same acoustic design and same performance standard (remember Buffet still puts their name on the B12)?
I really am reacting to the 'older' Patricolas from the mid 90's. I tried a rosewood version of their professional line clarinets then and was particularly underwhelmed. I would never have praised their products from that era.
Now the model of which you speak may be much better than the 90's model I remember, but it may also be the case that the Artistas are head and shoulders above that model.....I don't know.
The best way to arrive at your decision would be to arrange some way of trying them both and then deciding for yourself if the difference of cost justifies the savings.
................Paul Aviles
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Author: kdk ★2017
Date: 2019-08-13 03:59
I bought a rosewood Patricola C in 2007. I don't know what model it is - it was as far as I know the top of their line. While I very much like the keywork, tone quality and response, I had a really big problem with the intonation between registers. Patricola had me send it back and in the end returned it to me unimproved with the suggestion that a different mouthpiece would give a better result. He insisted by email that when he played it back at the factory it wasn't out of tune (I didn't find that the mouthpiece he suggested improved things much, and I wouldn't have used it on my other clarinets).
A little later I connected with Morrie Backun, who did improve it considerably to the point where I can play on it in orchestral contexts with only certain notes still needing to be humored. It has what seems to me to be a very effective mechanism for clearing up the throat Bb. It originally came with a LH Ab/Eb lever, which I took off because I found it too disorienting when none of my other clarinets had one. But if you like having it, it was there.
I don't know when the CL7 you're looking at was made, but if it plays in tune, it might well be a good find. Try before you buy, but if you find serious tuning anomalies, don't assume they can be easily fixed.
Karl
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2019-08-13 05:15
Wonderful sound for a "C."
It looks though as if he is using some form of custom bell.......seems much longer than what is pictured in the Patricola line up on their website.
...............Paul Aviles
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Author: Hurstfarm
Date: 2019-08-13 21:22
I bought a used CL7 about 3 years ago, and have been very happy with it. It is a well-made instrument with some nice touches, like the adjustment screws on the crow’s foot. It responds well across the range with a slightly brighter tone than a Bb instrument. Intonation is good, although varies somewhat according to the mouthpiece used (I’ve settled on a Grabner Virtuoso), having been improved by carefully opening out the hole in the bell to correct low E/F and B/C, which were previously flat.
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