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Author: ruben
Date: 2019-05-03 18:01
Here is my list, and you are welcome to add to it: Tony Coe, a certain Benny Goodman, Artie Shaw, Eddie Daniels, Bob Wilber. Jimmy Hamilton, the great clarinetist of the Duke Ellington Orchestra, also played Classical music, but never recorded any nor did he play it in public, unfortunately. There is France's Michel Portal, but he is a double-agent: has always played both types of music. What he plays these days, I would call improvised contemporary music more than jazz. On the other hand, there are few Classical players that have played much jazz. Larry Combs, my friend, the late John Denman. Others?
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Author: hans
Date: 2019-05-03 18:12
An interesting topic.
GBK plays both, and my high school music teacher (from 60 years ago) was a professional jazz musician first, but played (and taught) classical music as well.
It may be more challenging for classical musicians to learn to play jazz than the other way around - both Shaw and Goodman began with jazz, apparently - and interpretation is very different: our local symphony orchestra performed a Swing concert several years ago and, while they played the notes correctly, it certainly did not "swing".
Hans
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Author: ruben
Date: 2019-05-03 23:04
Hans, Benny Goodman actually began with Classical, as a child. He started playing jazz very early in life, though, in order to bring home the bacon. To my knowledge, he never played Klezmer, in spite of his Russian Jewish origins.
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Author: ruben
Date: 2019-05-03 23:05
Liquorice: What about you, Liquorice, do you play jazz? I'm sure you could play anything you set your mind to. How could I have forgotten Paquito?!
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Author: hans
Date: 2019-05-04 00:51
Ruben,
I agree, and perhaps the two years of early classical training helped to keep him interested in it for the rest of his life. It seems that his professional jazz career, starting in his early teens, preceded his professional classical work and that was what I was thinking of.
Regards,
Hans
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Author: Fuzzy
Date: 2019-05-04 01:15
Kchan,
That was an interesting clip.
I'm curious why the answer "Benny Goodman" was used as the example as to when American teaching became strict to classical training. Was this the case? Was clarinet education more flexible during the years between, say, Johnny Dodds/Leon Roppolo/etc and Benny Goodman?
It is a question that I had never thought before.
Thanks,
Fuzzy
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Author: Liquorice
Date: 2019-05-04 11:58
@ruben Thanks for your kind words. I have dabbled in jazz but realise my limitations. Good jazz players are the musicians that I most admire!
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Author: ruben
Date: 2019-05-04 15:53
Dear Liquorice: Listen to Tony Coe playing "How long has this been going on?" on YouTube. It will blow your mind! I'm sure Tony would love to meet you and get you going on playing a little jazz, even if you don't intend to become a full-time jazz musician. Your present job is already pretty good! ha ha
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Author: ruben
Date: 2019-05-04 15:55
Even more unusual is jazz saxophonists that play Classical music. I can only think of two: Branford Marsalis and Trent Kynaston.
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