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Author: rtaylor
Date: 2018-10-15 21:11
By a quirk of fate and some boredom I suppose, I ordered some the Peter Leuthner's Vienna Cut reeds from Brad Behn. ( He provids excellent customer service by the way on my orders, fast shipping etc. Great Company).
I am currently using a PlayNick Solist M mouthpiece on my Leitner & Kraus Reform Boehm clarinets. The Solist M is setup for the obligatory Vandoren V12.
So the Leuthners arrived in strenghs 2 1/2 & 3. For the Solist M the lighter 2 1/2 work very well.
1. Great sound, solid core and a nice "ping" to the tone.
2. Articulation - coudln't be better. You can run the through the Stark Studies without a hiccup
3. Longevity - too soon to tell but if they last as well as the French Leuthners then they really are something special
4. Very consistent from reed to reed. - I got 7 very playable reeds from a box of 10.
Cheers,
Robert
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Author: Klose ★2017
Date: 2018-10-15 22:22
They are indeed great reeds. Also try Pilgerstofer, I think they are even better.
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Author: Jordan Selburn
Date: 2018-10-19 08:45
I am currently using the Vienna Cuts on my Wurlitzer fo* (French system), and like them quite a bit. They have a nice sound and respond well.
As for Pilgerstorfer, I keep trying them but have never liked them on any of my mouthpieces.
Jordan
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Author: Klose ★2017
Date: 2018-10-19 09:19
Jordan, do you use Wurlitzer fo* on a french system clarinet?
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Author: mddds
Date: 2018-10-19 20:52
i really like the Wiener 4.0 cuts also on Boehm.
they seem to last forever.
i do find that they require a very long breaking in period.
i think the German cut and Old Weber cuts Pilgerstorfers play well on my N1 Kuckmeier.
however, they die pretty quickly.
havent tried Wiener cut Pilgerstorfers.
the Breit cuts don't work well for me at all.
although the Legere Euros at wider than the table width, they play very well for me.
the Breit cuts on the German mpc are too stuffy. they stick out the same amt as the Legeres do on the French mpc.
anyone else have the same experience?
-CK
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Author: Jordan Selburn
Date: 2018-10-22 08:21
Klose -
Yes, the Yamaha CSG II. My understanding is that it has something of a hybrid bore, but still falls on the "French" side, and the Wurlitzer mouthpiece was designed for such.
Jordan
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Author: dorjepismo ★2017
Date: 2018-10-22 19:03
After this thread came out, I discovered I had some of these, so I'm trying a couple out. I like the base sound, but it's pretty strident compared with Leuthner French Cuts and a couple other types I frequently use. I've got a very free-blowing mouthpiece, which the Playnicks I've tried aren't, so they're probably a lot better on mouthpieces that smooth out the rough edges. It would make sense that Viennese style reeds work well with Playnicks.
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Author: mddds
Date: 2018-10-22 21:21
i found the same thing: compared to the 4.5 Leuthner French, these Wiener 4.0 cuts are harsher. i use a relatively closed mpc (0.96) - C Robert Scott made two for me. i don't know the curvature/baffle details but i can provide the measurements, if anyone is interested.
i also find that they soften over several weeks.
maybe i'm playing on dead reeds(!)
-CK
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Author: rtaylor
Date: 2018-10-22 23:38
I've tried other mouthpieces since I first wrote this post.
Solist M
M30D
BD5 D
Playnick B2 (german style)
Wurlitzer fo
These reeds seem to like longer facings. The ones I listed above all have facing lengths greater than 20 so that may answer why they don't work for you if your mouthpiece facing is shorter than 20.
Just one idea.
Cheers,
Robert
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Author: YT
Date: 2019-03-05 01:14
Sorry to dig out this old thread, but I'm experimenting with Leuthner Professional French Cut strength 3,5 at the moment and like them very much. I wonder which strength I should buy if I want to give the viennese Cut a try. Does anyone of you have a suggestion for me?
Thank you very much!
Yannick
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Author: dorjepismo ★2017
Date: 2019-03-05 01:52
I can use 2.5 and 3 with French Cut, but only 2.5 with the Wiener Schnitts. The 3s were a little too hard for me, and working them down much seemed to take away some of the resonance that's one of the nice aspects of these reeds. A lot depends on your mouthpiece and facing, though.
Another thing you might try is Pilgerstorfer Exquisits, which Clark Fobes sells. The 1.5s (not a typo) are a little hard for me, but they bear working down well, and have a very stable and even, and a bit covered, sound. The tips are a bit thicker than the two Leutner varieties above, which is nice for avoiding too bright a sound in the altissimo.
Post Edited (2019-03-05 02:15)
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Author: Ken Lagace
Date: 2019-03-05 06:07
rtaylor, what mouthpiece and facing are you using with the Vienna cut reeds?
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Author: YT
Date: 2019-03-05 11:32
Thank you for the information! Sounds very interesting, I'll try that out.
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Author: rtaylor
Date: 2019-03-05 21:20
Currently I am using the Leitner & Kraus B2 mouthpiece with the Leuthner French Cut 3s or 3 1/2 depending on the weather, phases of the moon, whether the name of the day that week has a vowel in it..... You see my point.
The Vienna cuts are great but ultimately with the other mouthpieces I listed above the pitch was too unstable.
Pitch is always my ultimate criteria, as it should be.
Harold Wright once told Tom Riddenour that his criteria for any equipment is it has to be in tune first and foremost. True then as it is today.
Cheers,
Robert
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