Woodwind.OrgThe Clarinet BBoardThe C4 standard

 
  BBoard Equipment Study Resources Music General    
 
 New Topic  |  Go to Top  |  Go to Topic  |  Search  |  Help/Rules  |  Smileys/Notes  |  Log In   Previous Message  |  Next Message 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?
Author: John Peacock 
Date:   2018-12-07 00:12

As has been discussed elsewhere on this Board, there are reasons to be skeptical about whether the characteristics of "big bore" clarinets are really due to the bore size itself, or due to other aspects of the design. Evidence for this view comes from the fact that an Eaton International sounds and feels more like an Eaton Elite or 1010 than it does an R13. There is also the Howarth S1 or S2, which use standard mouthpieces, but again have some similarity of character with 1010s.

I was very sad to read here (for the first time) that Eaton is ceasing production of his instruments. Howarths are also no longer made. The same applies to the AE, which was Yamaha's effort to go in this direction. So it seems that there isn't enough demand out there to sustain production of a clarinet of this type. Even Buffet, with a gazillion different models, doesn't offer one.

Regarding 1010s specifically, my personal efforts to play on them foundered for three reasons: (1) the need for a large-bore mouthpiece; (2) tuning issues; (3) lack of consistency in sound from note to note. (1) is a problem because I don't think most B+H mouthpieces were very good. You could have one re-layed, or take a standard mouthpiece you like and have it bored out, but this does seem to change the character. (3) may vary between different instruments, but (2) is probably more intrinsic to the cylindrical design (which is why Eaton changed to a tapered upper joint). Taking it all together, it's just too much grief - even though the sound and feel can every now and then offer a vision of how the clarinet could be.
 Reply To Message  |  Avail. Forums  |  Flat View   Newer Topic  |  Older Topic 

 Topics Author  Date
 Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Kalashnikirby 2018-12-06 03:36 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Paul Aviles 2018-12-06 04:15 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Dibbs 2018-12-06 15:08 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
sax panther 2018-12-06 12:51 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Reformed 2018-12-06 13:18 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Chris P 2018-12-06 13:13 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Chris P 2018-12-06 13:23 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Kalashnikirby 2018-12-06 14:44 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
clarnibass 2018-12-06 15:14 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Paul Aviles 2018-12-06 17:09 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
cigleris 2018-12-06 19:25 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Kalashnikirby 2018-12-06 19:59 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Paul Aviles 2018-12-06 20:49 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
dorjepismo 2018-12-06 22:28 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Kalashnikirby 2018-12-06 23:36 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
John Peacock 2018-12-07 00:12 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Paul Aviles 2018-12-07 00:37 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Hurstfarm 2018-12-07 13:36 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Chris P 2018-12-07 14:40 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Reformed 2018-12-07 14:51 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
dorjepismo 2018-12-07 21:19 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Reformed 2018-12-07 22:34 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Chris P 2018-12-07 22:42 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
gatto 2018-12-07 23:01 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Reformed 2018-12-07 23:53 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
shmuelyosef 2018-12-08 06:35 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Ursa 2018-12-08 11:56 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
clarnibass 2018-12-08 12:21 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Chris P 2018-12-08 12:34 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
donald 2018-12-08 14:31 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Windy Dreamer 2018-12-08 19:58 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Caroline Smale 2018-12-09 03:54 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Reformed 2018-12-09 12:15 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Chris P 2018-12-09 13:45 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
clarnibass 2018-12-09 18:45 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
John Peacock 2018-12-09 20:44 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Kalashnikirby 2018-12-09 20:47 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
gatto 2018-12-09 22:35 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Chris P 2018-12-09 23:06 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
shmuelyosef 2018-12-10 02:39 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
dorjepismo 2018-12-10 07:13 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Kalashnikirby 2018-12-10 11:52 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Chris P 2018-12-10 13:27 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Kalashnikirby 2018-12-10 14:38 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Caroline Smale 2018-12-11 03:47 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Micke Isotalo 2018-12-14 13:02 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Chris P 2018-12-14 14:37 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Kalashnikirby 2018-12-14 14:56 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
John Peacock 2018-12-14 18:04 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Kalashnikirby 2018-12-15 17:22 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Micke Isotalo 2018-12-15 17:39 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Bob Barnhart 2018-12-17 23:58 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Kalashnikirby 2018-12-15 17:52 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Chris P 2018-12-15 20:01 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
dorjepismo 2018-12-16 10:14 
 Re: Which large bore clarinets to buy?  new
Kalashnikirby 2018-12-18 12:19 


 Avail. Forums  |  Need a Login? Register Here 
 User Login
 User Name:
 Password:
 Remember my login:
   
 Forgot Your Password?
Enter your email address or user name below and a new password will be sent to the email address associated with your profile.
Search Woodwind.Org

Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale

The Clarinet Pages
For Sale
Put your ads for items you'd like to sell here. Free! Please, no more than two at a time - ads removed after two weeks.

 
     Copyright © Woodwind.Org, Inc. All Rights Reserved    Privacy Policy    Contact charette@woodwind.org